View Full Version : Wiki usage problems


Bill Parker
03-12-2011, 12:57 PM
I was going to send this straight to Stan Mathews, but replies may be useful to others.

Stan, in a recent thread you answered someone's question about Tab Order with a link to the wiki. How did you do that?!?

I gave it a go and would never have found it, so I hope I am missing something.

Searching for "tab order" or "tab + order" give unreal number of hits because it is full text search on character strings, not words. (The page you referenced was the 260th hit.)

Search by title does not do what the instructions say - "•Title searches (the Titles button) give fewer and more manageable results than full-text searches (the Search button)". Instead it must be an exact match of entire title. So it is one hit or nothing. And the Titles button is not really accessable since it is covered by the auto-suggest list.

So it would be very helpful to be able to search either titles or full text by words vs. strings.

I just tried the Google search, and searching for Tab Order gave the desired page as the first hit!! So is the trick to always use the Google search and disregard the search tip that says - "•The Google Search box at the left can be useful, but Google's index of the site is sometimes out of date." Google is obviously putting the word hits before the string hits.


Stan Mathews
03-12-2011, 01:26 PM

Glad you experimented with the google search. That is the most reliable method I've found to locate an entry.

I have found that even using that can be problematic. I wanted to post a link to object.resynch() earlier today. When I used the google search and chose the most likely link I found an unusable page (http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/OBJECT.RESYNCH+Method).

If you choose the Cached version of the google hit you are presented with the option to view the text only version (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:wgzsfBc2ojcJ:wiki.alphasoftware.com/OBJECT.RESYNCH%2BMethod+.resynch()&hl=en&gl=us&strip=1) which is at least readable if not pretty.

You do always have the option of memorizing all the page names and

•If you know the name of a page, you can simply type it after the site name in the address bar, e.g. "http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/code library" or "http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/alltext function"

Yet another way, given a certain level of familiarity with the earlier versions of the documentation in chm or pdf form, is to naviate through the wiki to where you think you remember the page might be.

Alpha Five User Guide (http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/Alpha+Five+User+Guide+Title)
Using the Form Editor (http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/Using+the+Form+Editor)
Set the tab order of fields is in a list of From this point you can: at the end of the page.

Garry Flanigan
03-12-2011, 07:35 PM
I have found the wiki to be most disappointing, especially when you realise that it is now more than a year since its inception.
Finding information there is a last resort for me as it takes so long and you get so many useless hits. The Google search is by far the best.
Time for Alpha to lift their game...

Bill Parker
03-16-2011, 11:45 AM
Thanks for at least comiserating guys. I would have responded sooner, but email notifications in this forum no longer work...

I am sure progress is being made on some front somewhere?