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Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

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    Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

    Are there guidelines somewhere for migrating from V11 to V12? Or something I should know before diving in and porting all our v11 applications to v12?

    Also, is it considered a "good idea" to move to v12 now? Or should I wait a bit.

    Thanks
    Alpha Anywhere latest pre-release

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    Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

    Sarah,

    The product is stable & works great. No breaking changes except I believe user session folders that are finally gone.
    Frank

    Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand

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      #3
      Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

      What's the alternative to user session folders? I actually have, like, 1 place where I use them.
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        Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

        Sarah - I encourage everyone I can to move to Alpha Anywhere. I already dislike working in V11.

        What are you using the session folder for? Files? You'll want this -- though it's about v11, it's really important in v12:

        http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/Storin...n+Sessions+V11

        And, you should go through this list that, again is in the v11 docs, is very important for v12:

        http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/Server...+in+Version+11

        One of the most prevalent issues I've seen in existing apps moving forward is the fact that session variables must all be character-type. Older apps frequently have other types that simply won't work.

        But the tools and features of v12 are just outta this world.
        -Steve
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          Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

          No issues on the session variables front here. They're all char types. I have components from AlphaToGo framework. And there are lots of components that came with the job - I don't believe they were created in 10, though.

          I do have some plain old dialogs. Are they still supported? Or do I need to port them to a more modern dialog/UX component.

          I was using the session folder(s) for storing a generated on-demand PDF and for temporary storage for file upload magic in dialogs. I have used those functions in a few places - at least in the file upload in a dialog bits. I guess they came out about the same time I was implementing it. I didn't realize they were a replacement for session.session_folder. I'll make sure to find & replace those pesky session.session_folders.

          So, things are pretty similar to 11, then? Excepting of course the deprecated functions. No major changes with events in components - they're still all there I assume if they're not listed under deprecated?


          On a related note:

          Running 12 and 11 SxS on the same server - I just install and go, right? Does the v12 server install in a separate directory from the V11 server? Or does it overwrite? I know I would have to go through & update all my things to run 12 as a service/launch on startup/reboot script/etc etc etc.
          Alpha Anywhere latest pre-release

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            #6
            Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

            Bear with me. Upgrading a whole version - never done that. And I didn't setup the original project. So this is sort of like starting from scratch re: installing the new AWS.
            Alpha Anywhere latest pre-release

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              Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

              Is there a list of what has been deprecated?

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                Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                Originally posted by Sparticuz View Post
                Is there a list of what has been deprecated?
                Read the links from Steve. One has deprecated functions/etc listed.
                Alpha Anywhere latest pre-release

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                  Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                  Originally posted by TheSmitchell View Post
                  Read the links from Steve. One has deprecated functions/etc listed.
                  Those are deprecations for v11. So there is nothing that has changed for v12? I read through (skimmed) the release notes and didn't notice anything in there either. I had heard that ulink was going away in favor of userid, but I think that is an IIS thing.

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                    Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                    Originally posted by Sparticuz View Post
                    Those are deprecations for v11. So there is nothing that has changed for v12? I read through (skimmed) the release notes and didn't notice anything in there either. I had heard that ulink was going away in favor of userid, but I think that is an IIS thing.
                    Deprecated functionality in 11 is removed in 12 - so that's changed. If there's been anything deprecated in 12, I assume you would see it in the 12 release notes. Of course, I also assumed there would be something on the wiki - a guide? - for moving from 11 to 12 instead of a random smattering of info on the forums. I have migration questions! I need them answered - even if the answer is "You don't have to change anything! It just works!"

                    Time for another user page in my documentation!
                    Alpha Anywhere latest pre-release

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                      Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                      Sarah - I don't think there's anything "new" in v12 to add to that v11 document. It's really aimed at the long-term process of IIS integration. Your experience should be a pretty good one -- your v11 app should migrate to v12 quite well.
                      -Steve
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                        Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                        I just installed V12. I downloaded the full install update realased on 8/21/13. I have been using V11, but only for a couple of months. I have one fairly complex dialog that didn't seen to do well in the upgrade.
                        I get this error in Working Preview:
                        Line 4724
                        Char 6
                        Error Syntax Error
                        Code 0
                        URL a5res://a5wobject/__hidden__VarTemp122254028_GridSettings?dlg_title=wcb_workingPreview08282013115650

                        I have tried deleting controls to see if there in one control causing an issue. A similar error occurs but gives a different line number.

                        All other components seem to be working fine.

                        Any help is appreciated

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                          Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                          That seems to suggest you have not yet deleted THE control that causes the issue?
                          Frank

                          Tell me and I'll forget; show me and I may remember; involve me and I'll understand

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                            Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                            Originally posted by Pizzadude View Post
                            I just installed V12. I downloaded the full install update realased on 8/21/13. I have been using V11, but only for a couple of months. I have one fairly complex dialog that didn't seen to do well in the upgrade.
                            I get this error in Working Preview:
                            Line 4724
                            Char 6
                            Error Syntax Error
                            Code 0
                            URL a5res://a5wobject/__hidden__VarTemp122254028_GridSettings?dlg_title=wcb_workingPreview08282013115650

                            I have tried deleting controls to see if there in one control causing an issue. A similar error occurs but gives a different line number.

                            All other components seem to be working fine.

                            Any help is appreciated
                            You might get a better response if you start a new thread on this subject.
                            Alpha Anywhere latest pre-release

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                              #15
                              Re: Moving to V12 from V11 - is there a guide? Or does it just work?

                              Quick question running 11 & 12 on the same server: Do I need to do anything special when installing? I attempted to install 12 today only to discover that it wants me to shut down all my V11 servers/applications to install the MS framework stuff (SQL 2012 and .NET 4.5). To anyone who is running both: I just install, correct? I don't need to do any fancy server magic?

                              Please bear with me. I've never done this sort of thing before.

                              Thank you!
                              ---
                              Sarah
                              Alpha Anywhere latest pre-release

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