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    Another UX question ...

    My UX with 300 controls loads really, really slow. What I want to do to fix this is divide up the data entry into four parts. The user would press a button that opens part one, fill in the data, close the window, then press another button for part two ...etc, etc. I tried this with "open a UX as an alternate editing view for the current record", however, this doesn't do me any good as all 300 controls still need to be in the parent UX and then mapped to the editing UX (which makes the parent UX open just as slowly).

    How can I then do this? ....I'd rather stick with one SQL table.

    Sorry if my description sounds a bit convoluted

    -Mike
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    Re: Another UX question ...

    I'm thinking now that I need to use four linked tables in order to get what I want ...

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      #3
      Re: Another UX question ...

      I think i may have found my answer in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6Jkv9ix1Q

      -Mike
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        Re: Another UX question ...

        This is exactly what you want to do if you have more than 100 controls. I had over 400 controls in my UX at one point and I ended up breaking it into 5 logical segments. Its completely seamless to the user. A good design technique is to keep the initial component (typically a login component) as light as possible so your app comes up as fast as possible. You can use either embedded objects or Action Javascript to load the child components. If you are using embedded objects, be sure to check the property "Delay render til visible" so it loads your child component at the time it needs to become visible. Otherwise, you will not see any improvement in speed.

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          Re: Another UX question ...

          Originally posted by DaveF View Post
          This is exactly what you want to do if you have more than 100 controls. I had over 400 controls in my UX at one point and I ended up breaking it into 5 logical segments. Its completely seamless to the user. A good design technique is to keep the initial component (typically a login component) as light as possible so your app comes up as fast as possible. You can use either embedded objects or Action Javascript to load the child components. If you are using embedded objects, be sure to check the property "Delay render til visible" so it loads your child component at the time it needs to become visible. Otherwise, you will not see any improvement in speed.
          Thanks! ...the video used a read only example of which I think I understand now. In my app users will be entering in information and saving to a SQL table. I'm now wondering how these child UX's are tied to a single row in SQL ....

          -Mike
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            Re: Another UX question ...

            Most of my experience is with unbound UX components unfortunately. I'm using a RESTful service to read/write to my database. I'm not sure exactly what you are doing. Are you using a List Control that is bound to a SQL table? If so, the entire List Control object would be part of a single UX component regardless of the number of rows. I don't understand the relationship between rows and child UX components. Is there a button on each row that navigates to a new panelcard?

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              Re: Another UX question ...

              Originally posted by DaveF View Post
              Most of my experience is with unbound UX components unfortunately. I'm using a RESTful service to read/write to my database. I'm not sure exactly what you are doing. Are you using a List Control that is bound to a SQL table? If so, the entire List Control object would be part of a single UX component regardless of the number of rows. I don't understand the relationship between rows and child UX components. Is there a button on each row that navigates to a new panelcard?
              I'm trying to duplicate a four page medical form. My vision is that the basic info will be on the screen all the time, like patient name, medical record number, and today's date. Below that would be four buttons. Each button opens a different "page" (UX) of this form I am duplicating.

              I already have the SQL table that has all the fields for this form. Loading 300 items, however, in a single UX is VERY slow hence the reason I need/want to break it up via the buttons.

              I can easily create 5 different UX components...one is the parent UX with the 'basic info' and buttons and then four other UX's, one for each page. What I'm trying to figure out is how to tie all of this together

              -Mike
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                Re: Another UX question ...

                Is the main problem that you need to update all of the child component fields together in a single transaction as opposed to separately within each UX component? If so, you may have to handle the control populating and updating manually.

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                  Re: Another UX question ...

                  I ended up using a grid and free forming my detail view.... oddly enough the grid opens very fast while the UX opens very slow. I thought that a UX was supposed to be a lot faster than a grid.

                  Thanks for your help.

                  -Mike
                  Mike Brown - Contact Me
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                    Re: Another UX question ...

                    hello

                    while i am happy that you have resorted to a grid instead of dialog, by any name. i like to point out to you that grid needs continuing internet connection to the server, the dialog does not. you may find your user may walk away or do something in between and has to reenter all the data all over again.

                    i think dialog is the best for those inputs. i may run into the same problems if i were to look into your fields ( probably you know more than i do) but i am willing to take a look if you send the sql definition of the table ( as a dump file in mysql, for example) from your database.

                    the table definition dump file will not have any data so there will be no privacy issue.
                    any additional info to help design the dialog such as lookup etc., will be appreciated.
                    and with that information anybody who sees the file, in addition, may step in to help you.
                    thanks for reading

                    gandhi

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