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Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

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    Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

    Hello.

    I am a new user to Alpha and can't wait to get started once I receive my subscription info and/or serial (or however I get my licensed copy I paid for).

    All of my hosting servers are on apache linux servers and I would rather not run a microsoft server. Is it available as a linux version?

    If not, can I run it off a clould hard drive with a static IP? If not, is there a less expensive option than Zebra systems? I pay $7 per month for my hosting with hostgator and $40 per month seems a bit excessive by today's standards.

    Thanks for your help.

    Mike

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    Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

    Mike,

    No it can not run on apache. The Alpha Web Application server requires Windows which I know you can run apache on top of Windows but generally it's a linux server. At some point we should have the option to host it on a windows web server using IIS (Still requires a windows machine which is more expensive to host then the linux/apache configuration) but at the moment you are required to use the Alpha Web Application Server. I don't know if there are more affordable options then Zebrahost, Check out Amazon's cloud services, I have utilized their service, they price it differently but it can be very affordable depending on the amount of traffic your site/app generates.

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      #3
      Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

      I've heard rumblings of some folks using GoDaddy's as a VPS host as well. Not sure of the cost but I've provided two competitors you can compare pricing with. I host my own A5 sites but I think from what I've seen in the forums, the major benefit to Zebrahost is that they are more intimately familiar with the A5 WAS and can offer a different level of support. For someone not at all familiar with the WAS I see it's benefit.

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        #4
        Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

        What about a static IP running a MS Server? Would that work? It may be less expensive for me to add that on to my existing 90GB broadband.

        Mike

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          #5
          Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

          Yes,

          I host the Alpha Web Application Server myself. I have a block of ip addresses though. Just remember that if you only have a single IP, you'll be limited to one site that can run on any given port. So port 80 for example, you can host one site on port 80. You can't have virtual hosts that share port 80 like you can when using apache and IIS as your web server.

          If you are only planning on hosting a single site/app or two and making one secure so that it runs on port 443 then you have nothing to worry about. You can use non-standard ports also but most of my clients don't necessarily like having to specify a port to access their application. (i.g. http://mysite.com:8090). This is one of the reasons I am really looking forward to being able to host A5 apps via IIS.

          Hope this helps

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            #6
            Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

            Yes. I see. I am not sure how Alpha uses a web server. In Apache, I can just create add-on domains or subdomains easily. I plan on using this for multiple client projects as well as internal projects.

            Mike

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              #7
              Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

              That is correct, virtual hosting is not currently supported by Alpha. It's one port per app

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                #8
                Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                Ouch. And this is for every project created in Alpha? Regardless of whether or not its windows, mac, ios or android? What happens if I go out of business and shut everything down, do all the people I created apps for get screwed because my server is not running?

                That is a major problem for me. I can't do that to people.

                Mike

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                  #9
                  Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                  It is a bit frustrating I'll admit. Your client can opt to host the A5 WAS themselves but I believe they now have to pay for a subscription from now until the end of time to host it themselves which doesn't appeal to a lot of smaller businesses especially.

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                    #10
                    Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                    You can run more than one app and more than one WAS on your server. I have several apps running on V11 and several on V12.
                    Regards,
                    Chet Sapino
                    President,
                    SAPINO Enterprises
                    6451 Pheasant Rd
                    East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                      #11
                      Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                      I do as well. My point was one app per port per ip address. Virtual hosting is not supported which allows sites to share a port and ip. So if he has two apps he needs to host for his clients on port 80 (unless the end users are on the LAN which I don't believe they are) then he will need 2 external ip addresses.

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                        Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                        Originally posted by coleresources View Post
                        I do as well. My point was one app per port per ip address. Virtual hosting is not supported which allows sites to share a port and ip. So if he has two apps he needs to host for his clients on port 80 (unless the end users are on the LAN which I don't believe they are) then he will need 2 external ip addresses.
                        I am running multiple apps on my server with one IP address and two WAS installs: V11 and V12. I can run endless apps on this server with one IP. V11 WAS is running on 8080, and V12 WAS is running on 8081. I'm also doing virtual hosting and any website on this server can access any app running on any port - all using a single IP address.
                        Regards,
                        Chet Sapino
                        President,
                        SAPINO Enterprises
                        6451 Pheasant Rd
                        East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                          #13
                          Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                          I don't think you read my posts carefully. I explained that you can use non standard ports. I've a lot of experience with developing outside of alpha and managing web servers. The WAS is very limited in comparison to iis and apache especially in relation to virtual hosting.

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                            #14
                            Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                            I am running multiple apps on my server with one IP address and two WAS installs: V11 and V12. I can run endless apps on this server with one IP. V11 WAS is running on 8080, and V12 WAS is running on 8081. I'm also doing virtual hosting and any website on this server can access any app running on any port - all using a single IP address.
                            The only methods I know of to run multiple "websites" on one IP address with Alpha WAS is to a) use different ports, or b) putting a 3rd party web server in front of Alpha, such as Abyss with reverse proxy (which I have not tested, see post by kkfin), or c) to structure your "websites" so that they are all using the same webroot but different subfolders. If you are doing the later (e.g., mydomain.com/project1/index.a5w) then that is really one website, not multiple.
                            Steve Wood
                            See my profile on IADN

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                              #15
                              Re: Can the Alpha server software run on Apache?

                              Related thread that may be of interest "SOLVED: This is one way to host AWS via an Apache website"
                              msgboard.alphasoftware.com/alphaforum/showthread.php?107801

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