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Having Security Group Issues with Build 7776

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  • Having Security Group Issues with Build 7776

    Hi...again...

    I have an app that has been Active Directory Integrated for years. Now on build 7776 Alpha does not understand group membership???? So I'm a member of a AD group we'll call GroupA and I have permissions to certain pages to administer the system. After publishing any UX that has been altered in the new version my permissions are gone. I don't get it. What changed now in the current build that would break AD Group membership? It is as if Alpha doesn't know the user is a member of a AD Group....

    Anyone else having issues with AD Groups in Alpha?

    Thanks
    Joe
    Never take a ride to the edge of your mind unless you've got a ticket back - Jon Oliva - Savatage.

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    I've done a lot on security this year, and know there have been changes in that time on security, in the build you describe there was also changes, also the use of Arguments has had a radical change, the best advise is - 'if you have been using a woking build reliably - then it fails after a new official release, then you must let Alpha know and ask for assistance as the cause and the remedy are beyond your knowledge or control.

    Pete
    Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
    Albert Einstein, (attributed)
    US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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    • #3
      Thanks Pete...I did report it to Alpha and it was suggested to roll back as it will be some time before the next release. Now to figure out what was the most stable previous release as the past few have been troublesome.
      Never take a ride to the edge of your mind unless you've got a ticket back - Jon Oliva - Savatage.

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      • #4
        I've had good luck with nightly build 7582 but I have not had any luck with any builds after that, stable or nightly.
        Alpha Anywhere v12.4.6.3.0 Build 7582-5569 IIS v10.0 on Windows Server 2019 Std in Hyper-V

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        • #5
          I am on 7715. It caused me a few problems, most were fixed by re-calculating all controls in UXs. Sounds like I will wait "some time" for the next release.

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          • #6
            So, I have not rolled back yet as I'm still doing some TS. I did figure out one thing. In AD under "Member Of" tab, You can define a Primary Group. By default users primary group is Domain Users. In the 20yrs of managing AD I've never changed that nor do I know anyone who has/does. For the hell of it I made it the group that has permissions to the UX in Alpha. Guess what...I can access the UX. Change it back to Domain Users and it goes away. Now, Domain Users does not have explicit permission to the UX (not checked in Security Groups). It feels as if Alpha is only really adhering to what the Primary Group is.
            Never take a ride to the edge of your mind unless you've got a ticket back - Jon Oliva - Savatage.

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            • #7
              In the usual Alpha fashion they have been great in getting this resolved. Tonight's preview build will have a fix.

              At the end of the day...issues occur in every single product...and we as end users may get frustrated....but....how you stand behind the product in fixing those issues is a testament to the dedication a company shows to its customers and its product. Kudos to those at Alpha for that dedication. Thank you!!!!
              Never take a ride to the edge of your mind unless you've got a ticket back - Jon Oliva - Savatage.

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