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    #16
    If I wind back until Alpha releases an actual stable build... I might be stuck on an old build for a long long time.

    Has anyone else installed 7902 on a production server?

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      #17
      Good luck - lost a day changing the crazy default timeout on callbacks on my dev server - no way would I go live on it - anyone not on this message board that accepts the update message when promoted is in for a ride.
      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
      Albert Einstein, (attributed)
      US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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        #18
        I am stuck on 6699. Each time I tried to move to new versions, a couple of things would come up. Some minor, some major. My mobile app is used by hundreds and it impacts employee payroll and expense so I can't take risks and don't have time to replicate use cases for Alpha. I just need things to work. I first deployed in 2016. I hear 7715 is a good version from several threads I read. I want to use the newer features but stability takes precedence. I tried 7776 but found myself refactoring UX controls from scratch. I abandoned the effort and stayed with 6699. I am an old "MS Access" dog and don't want to spend a lot of time learning new tricks.

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          #19
          I am currently using build 7295. I believe that is from Dec 2020.

          I have found it to be stable and relatively pain free to upgrade to.

          But no matter what you do, there will be some reworking you need to do.

          Setup a test environment, even if it's just something you use for a few months.

          Run everything from the test environment until it's stable, then make it live.

          You have to do it sometime, eventually, you won't have a choice. The sooner you start, the sooner you finish.

          If you need some help with the upgrade there are plenty of programmers out here who could provide support.
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            #20
            Yes, I have a complete and isolated test environment. Separate Web and SQL Servers. I have a QA staff to test everything. I have no problem re-working some code but I expect some level of upgrade compatibility with minimal effort. Alpha has made me look like a genius and I want my client to continue to believe that. I will try 7295 and advise on progress.

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              #21
              from one Genius to another - 7295 worked for me as well for most things.
              Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
              Albert Einstein, (attributed)
              US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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                #22
                Hi,
                7295 worked for me, then i moved to 7776 which also is good. Be careful with 7776 i think there is a setting for callback that needs to be modified.
                I tried 7902 but rolled back quickly.
                With Alpha finding a version that is bug free is like winning the jackpot. It happens once in a life time .
                Have a nice day

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                  #23
                  Paul,

                  For the callback setting.

                  Is there a way to globally update it, or do you have to visit each UX manually?

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                    #24
                    I don't think there a global setting.

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                      #25
                      I'm still on 7582. The irony is this is 7582 is a stable nightly build for me, 7902 is supposed to be an official build. Really?
                      Alpha Anywhere v12.4.6.5.7 Build 9305-5711 IIS v10.0 on Windows Server 2019 Std in Hyper-V

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                        #26
                        I will throw in my two cents even though there has already been much said here already. I believe that in order to take advantage of any new features you have to be willing to use the nightly builds, and there are also many situations were a fix to a stable build is needed and the next stable build introduces new issues that get addressed in the nightly build. The bottom line is that even though Alpha Anywhere says not to use a nightly build for production they have set it up that you really have no choice. Some Nightly builds are better then others and the most painful part is finding the sweet spot that you can stick with until you need a new feature or a bug that was addressed in a newer build.

                        I use Alpha Cloud with puts me in a more favorable position because a deployment can have a set server version so I don't have to worry about server versions and can just keep on developing on the same version the deployment is already on and working with.

                        Until Alpha implements what they discussed at Devcon and separate new features from fixes I don't see any other path.

                        I love Alpha but this by far the biggest challenge I have as a developer.
                        David Weinstein
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                          #27
                          I am testing build 8099. I have been on 7902. I found that the code in post # 5, which I added to all my list controls now interferes with submitting the list data in some circumstances.

                          So this is a heads up for anyone that implemented this fix in 7902. You must disable or delete the javascript from the onItitialize event in all list controls.

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