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NIST Password recommondations

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  • NIST Password recommondations

    Since I worked through this for a client I thought I would share. We've all gotten used to having to create "complex" passwords for websites. The new NIST guidelines say "additional research shows that requiring new passwords to include a certain amount of complexity can actually make them less secure. And that’s why NIST has also removed all password-complexity requirements from their guidelines."

    Read here for the full guideline: https://auth0.com/blog/dont-pass-on-...rd-guidelines/

    Their guideline makes perfect sense. Like, forcing the user to change their password often, makes it less secure because we just add a "$" to the existing password, or change "...28" to "...29", etc.

    It also calls for letting the poor user actually see the password they are typing in stating, that if they cannot see the password, they tend to create shorter, less secure passwords.

    The slightly more difficult one to implement is to compare the password they entered in real-time against a database of known unsafe, compromised, or too-common passwords.

    Also, they recommend not using those stupid questions like the name of your first pet or the name of the street you grew up on.

    Also, no SMS for 2-Factor Authentication.

    Come to our Webinar: If any of this is important to you, we will probably talk about it at our next IADN webinar. Please click here and plan to join us. All of your software-developer friends will be there.



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  • #2
    Thank you for passing this along Steve. We have been so ingrained in thought about passwords for so long that some of the new recommendations almost seem counter-intuitive now .. but if you really think about it, do make a lot of sense!
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    • #3
      Really interesting read. Thanks for sharing.
      Mike Brown - Contact Me
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      • #4
        This is somewhat "old" news with the NIST document being over 2 years old, and yet many (most?) are not aware of it. Thanks for sharing it here Steve.

        Lenny Forziati
        Vice President, Internet Products and Technical Services
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        • #5
          And why do humans have to prove to computers that they are not a robot?

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          • #6
            I tend to offer a "hint" which is only known to the user.
            Example;
            Password = 1972Disney!
            Hint = Micky and Goofy!

            Tends to get remembered as there is an association, holiday in Disney Land.
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            Live with it, Change it or Walk away from it.

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            • #7
              Soon we all are using FIDO auth (and then everything else is considered as a bad practice as usual). So basically a pin is enough.

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              • #8
                I have that already, Ken.
                Not hassle free.
                Think biometric situations where gloves are reqiired. A PIN should actually be enough if you can link it to the device DNA, which, as we all know, Google and MS already do.
                A bit like the "Remember me" feature that doesn't work ( but could).
                All my CCs are pin operated and pegged to the card, so that is the same as device DNA really.
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