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    I am fully disappointed !!

    Hi All,

    I am new to Alpha Anywhere. I started by building the sample application (Tutorial - Building the Sample Mobile Application)
    http://downloads.alphasoftware.com/a...eMobileApp.htm

    Every thing was excellent until I deployed the sample application to my samsung galaxy tablet. The app is running but very very slow

    I deployed my app using the instructions at this video : Video: Alpha Anywhere�s new PhoneGap integration explained in 10 minutesis asolution
    http://www.alphasoftware.com/blog/gi...vice-hardware/

    Hope there is a solution for the poor performance.

    Thanks.

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    At least you did get it working. Where you need the better performance in sample application?

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      #3
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      Thank you for your reply kkfin,

      The first app always gives either a good or bad impression.So, I am wondering Did I select the right tool or should I look for another ?

      Thanks again.

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        You have to compare tools. Js is slow and phonegap is slow. We have to live with it at the moment.

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          Javascript is anything but slow... same for PhoneGap Build. Not sure where you're getting that impression. It can't be from building Apps using either.

          AboNAif... could you zip and post your full project? I'll build and deploy and see what might be going on. What Android version is your Samsung Galaxy tablet running?

          You can utilized the Crosswalk Webview Engine for an Android build. That may help in your situation.

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            Originally posted by Davidk View Post
            Javascript is anything but slow... same for PhoneGap Build.
            David, first client side validation is enough and now js and phonegap are not slow...:)

            Others, When you build a most simple hello world Ux -component (list control + button + textbox) you end up about 750 lines of code. If you hand code same functionality you end up about 15 lines. Any impact to performance? Now using phonegap makes again an other code layer around your code. It does not make your app any faster it slows it a bit.
            If performance is number one thing in your app then phonegap is not the best choice (phonegap game: lol) . But there are other reasons to use phonegap. It is easy to use and it is easy to deploy an app to all platforms using phonegap.

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              Ken... if you can hand code the Alpha List Control and button and textbox in 15 lines of code... then yikes... I would love to learn how to do that. Can you elaborate? I can't see that you're offering or posting valid code or solutions. From what I can see you're complaining about the platform. Not helpful.

              If a person has the skills to code a database driven app in the natvie platform for iOS or Android then, of course they should do that. Of course it's going to be faster. It's native. But... if you can't... then we're here... working with what we do have... which is pretty good stuff.

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                Originally posted by Davidk View Post
                Ken... if you can hand code the Alpha List Control and button and textbox in 15 lines of code... then yikes... I would love to learn how to do that. Can you elaborate? I can't see that you're offering or posting valid code or solutions. From what I can see you're complaining about the platform. Not helpful.

                If a person has the skills to code a database driven app in the natvie platform for iOS or Android then, of course they should do that. Of course it's going to be faster. It's native. But... if you can't... then we're here... working with what we do have... which is pretty good stuff.
                Do you really want me to show how to make an hello word with button, textbox and label?

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                  Others, When you build a most simple hello world Ux -component (list control + button + textbox) you end up about 750 lines of code. If you hand code same functionality you end up about 15 lines.
                  I'd be more interested in this... thanks. About 15 lines of code for an Alpha List control + button + textbox. That'd be pretty cool.

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                    Originally posted by Davidk View Post
                    I'd be more interested in this... thanks. About 15 lines of code for an Alpha List control + button + textbox. That'd be pretty cool.
                    You do not get the point and it does not surprise me anymore.

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                      Originally posted by kkfin View Post
                      You do not get the point and it does not surprise me anymore.
                      I get David's point just fine.

                      If a person has awesome skills and can code by hand something complex like a list with offline capability and intelligent bi-directional syncing to enterprise databases built in WITHOUT using a RAD tool like Alphasoftware, perhaps Alphasoftware isn't the tool for you.

                      However, suggesting something trivial like "hello world" as the example to determine whether to use a RAD tool at all IS pointless.

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                        Originally posted by Clint2 View Post
                        However, suggesting something trivial like "hello world" as the example to determine whether to use a RAD tool at all IS pointless.
                        It was not my idea. I follewed Selwyns Hello World video. It is here.
                        You can point your opinion directly to Selwyn not to me. Anyway it is 750 lines of code.

                        You boys really did get the point.

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                          Originally posted by Clint2 View Post
                          I get David's point just fine.

                          If a person has awesome skills and can code by hand something complex like a list with offline capability and intelligent bi-directional syncing to enterprise databases built in WITHOUT using a RAD tool like Alphasoftware, perhaps Alphasoftware isn't the tool for you.
                          Did you even read this thread? This thread is about speed and reasons why Phonegap application may be slow. Where did you get in your head to begin talk about is Alphasoftware suitable or not for RAD developent. Take a deep breath and relax.

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                            Originally posted by kkfin View Post
                            Did you even read this thread? This thread is about speed and reasons why Phonegap application may be slow. Where did you get in your head to begin talk about is Alphasoftware suitable or not for RAD developent. Take a deep breath and relax.
                            I work from home every day, I never get out of my jammies, I'm relaxed just fine, thanks. Maybe you should relax and try to be actually helpful. :)

                            You have to compare tools. Js is slow and phonegap is slow. We have to live with it at the moment.
                            Who's this "we". Compare tools? I must have missed something, what's the name of a better tool you use to develop enterprise apps again? Link please?

                            I like alpha a lot, if there were anything better, I'd miss them but I'd be obligated to think about changing. There is no RAD system that has the same feature set of alpha on the market right now. If you can name one RAD system/tool that has the same feature set, let's hear it. :) Link please?

                            Happy Thanksgiving, you go eat some pie now, ya hear! Don't forget to breathe! lol

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                              I won't list any here. This site is alpha!
                              There are about 20 RAD that can match close or even surpass. They also vary in price and mostly more expensive, also some have a bit more hand coding involved.

                              You are probably best right where you are.
                              Dave Mason
                              [email protected]
                              Skype is dave.mason46

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