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  • #16
    Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

    now going back to post #1 you did say that.
    I just missed it.
    as long as it works well and good.
    thanks.
    thanks for reading

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    • #17
      Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

      I think you want to use this in v12...

      {dialog.Object}.setValue(UXControlName,value [,honorChangeEvent] );

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      Last edited by joegrun4; 05-13-2016, 03:13 AM.
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      • #18
        Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

        I have posed the question before without answer...WHY should any field be considered dirty at all with a submit button? Submit should just do as it implies and submit all of the information and there outta be 3 buttons - One called submit that actually submits all of the fields in the detail view, one that ONLY submits edited fields only and one that says submit nothing, then lets all sit back and watch which button gets used more!
        LOL.
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        • #19
          Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

          Well I would think the idea is for quicker data synchronization. Why have all fields push all data to the database if only one field has been changed?
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          • #20
            Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

            Agreed on the speed issue, but again how much speed would be lost over 3 fields submitting vs 35? My guess is that it would submit so quick either way. I can see the argument being made that in a multi-tenant application that you could potentially have thousands making edits and instead of a few edits now you have millions going on...so as I said I see your point in scalability.
            I just think there should be some sort of additional checkbox that say to always consider "dirty" that way we could test and set this up without error if there is an is dirty situation. Perhaps that is a BETTER solution than my 10 pound maul approach, lol.
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            • #21
              Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

              Originally posted by joegrun4 View Post
              I think you want to use this in v12...

              {dialog.Object}.setValue(UXControlName,value [,honorChangeEvent] );

              [ATTACH=CONFIG]42022[/ATTACH]
              I do use it, I BELIEVE I mentioned it in my OP (but I could be wrong). My point is that using SetValue (or, as I've just found out, modifying the field via a Lookup fill-in) does NOT set the field dirty so that, if you have the Detail View to update "Dirty Fields Only" then this information will NOT be saved.

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              • #22
                Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

                I'm not sure I understand your point completely (unless it's tongue-in-cheek and I'm just dense): The "Submit Nothing" is the close button, Submit can save dirty fields only or all fields depending on a setting in the Detail View's property pages. Granted, unless one can programmatically change that setting, you can't do it at run time with buttons.

                My point is simply that, if a field is NOT enabled, then regardless of whether its value is changed, it will NOT be updated in the backend (this is if you have the component set to update "Dirty Fields Only". As a result I need to use the "All Fields" setting. Dirty is dirty, it just appears that Alpha figures if a field is not enabled it CAN'T have its value changed.

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                • #23
                  Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

                  http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/~alpha...ary.JS+Library

                  A5.form.setCtrlDirty(ele)

                  If a control is changed by user action, the event handlers created by A5.form.prepare() will set the control ?dirty? when the user leaves the control However, often a control value is changed by some other action, such as a Javascript action on the page, an action such as a lookup or date picker. If the list of ?dirty? controls is important for some action, every changed control must be set ?dirty? or it won?t be listed. If the user didn?t directly change the value, the ?dirty? attribute won?t be set. This function allows setting a control ?dirty?. If a control has an ID value of ?newdate?, this Javascript function call will set the ?a5isdirty? attribute to ?True?.

                  A5.form.setCtrlDirty('new date')

                  this question still was on my mind, and here is link for you to see. even though they do not specifically talk about hidden control or not.
                  i will see if i can run a test case again and post back if anything i find. ( i know last time it did not succeed)
                  thanks for reading

                  gandhi

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                  • #24
                    Re: Does setValue mark field dirty in detail view?

                    gandhi:

                    Well, that answers my question, thank you very much.

                    Let me ask you a philosophical question: "If the documentation for a software feature is so buried that only someone like you can find it, does the feature actually exist"? In retrospect, someone may ask why I didn't immediately look at this page of the Wiki, but ex ante, at least IMO, it never occurred to me that the page even existed, let alone that I should look at it. That's where Alpha is at a disadvantage compared to something like Microsoft; Alpha's software, though in some ways remarkable, is so poorly documented that in order to use it effectively one requires a HUGE peer support group. The fact that the group here is so helpful despite being comparatively miniscule speaks to the knowledge and gracious nature of its members, but there are nevertheless limits.

                    BTW, most of my issues were with DISABLED, rather than hidden, fields, but I'm sure the information you linked pertains to the latter as well.

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