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  • New to Alpha and confused with something simple

    Hi Guys,

    I am new to Alpha but been in php/javascript/css/html/sql and all the good stuff for 20 years.

    I am just playing with doing an intranet within alpha to turn the basics.

    I have found the a5w include function for useing header/footer pages.

    I must be missing something though as i setup the header page with the usual html,head,body tags etc and the relevant ones in the footer, and the main middle page as separate pages too.

    when i save/close and come back alpha is putting all the main html,head,body tags in all my files - which obviously i don't want and that is the header of a header and footer page.

    What am I doing wrong please ?



  • #2
    Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple

    I am not sure I understand you, could you draw it.

    I think you are trying too hard.

    Unless you are doing something complex you will not drop into xBasic.
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    As I said I may have missed your point.

    As you are new it should take you a while to outgrow the basic Alpha RAD paradigm.


    • #3
      Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple

      when i save/close and come back alpha is putting all the main html,head,body tags in all my files - which obviously i don't want and that is the header of a header and footer page.
      you are not doing anything wrong, that is the way alpha five a5w page editor does. in trying to help you it is in your way.
      once you design any page in alphafive a5w editor do not open again via the editor.
      i do not know another simple way of doing a5w half pages as you do in php.
      thanks for reading


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      • #4
        Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple

        Thank you


        • #5
          Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple

          Lee... I'm not sure why it would be suggested that you not use the Alpha Editor again after saving an A5W Page. There are caveats but, of course, you can use the editor. Once you open the A5W page in the editor, use the tabs at the bottom of the page and switch to source.

          There's a lot of stuff in Alpha... so could you describe what you mean by...

          I have found the a5w include function for useing header/footer pages.
          Where did you find it? Knowing this will give context to your question.


          • #6
            Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple

            Web and mobile is UTF-8 format today. If you retrieve data from database it is in UTF-8 format in Alpha also. But Alphas Editor saves page in ANSI format. Therefore you should not use Alphas Editor at all. Same is with some functions for example if you use Alphas String functions. Upper()-function is a good example. It does not work at all with UTF-8. Use some external editor instead and be aware of problems with UTF-8 when using Alphas built in functions.


            • #7
              Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple


              What you are doing is very common. Here is what I have in my app

              in somepage.a5w

              <!DOCTYPE html>
              <!-- ==================================================================
              This page is the contact us information
              Requires log in so we know who submitted it.
              =================================================================== -->
              <meta name="generator" content="Alpha Anywhere HTML Editor Version 12 Build 2059-4277">
              <meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" />
              <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
              <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=no" />
              <meta name="apple-mobile-web-app-capable" content="yes" />
              <link href="css/GrBlue/style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
              <title>Contact Us</title>
              <body class="GrBluePage">
              <table id="twrap">
              <tr><td class="tleft">&nbsp;</td><td class="ttc"><%a5 a5w_include("page_header.a5w") %></td><td class="tright">&nbsp;</td></tr>

              where page_header.a5w is

              <div id="header">
              <table><tr><td style="width:600px; height: 130px; text-align:center;">
              <img src="nfn_images/e_red_reverse_wR.png" style="border: none; width: 194px;" alt="Logo" /><br>
              <span style="color:black; font-size:11pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold; padding-left:26px;">
              My company name</span>
              <td style="width:500px;">
              <div class="tagline">
              <p>Your Complete Solution to Safety, Efficiency<br />and Compliance of Combustion Systems</p>
              <p style="font-family:Trebuchet MS;font-size:10pt;font-weight:normal;color:#000000;">
              if variable_exists("Session.FULLNAME")
              ?"Welcome " + Session.FULLNAME
              end if
              </div><!-- end header -->

              and at the bottom of the page is

              <tr><td class="tleft">&nbsp;</td><td class="tbc"><%a5 a5w_include("page_footer.a5w") %></td><td class="tright">&nbsp;</td></tr>

              where page_footer.a5w is

              <div id="clearone">&nbsp;</div>
              <div id="footer">
              <p><a href="copyrightnotice.htm" target="_blank">Copyright&copy; 2011-2017 My company name - All Rights Reserved</a>
              if variable_exists("SESSION.FOOTCODE")
              end if

              Also, gandhi is right. Do not open the header or footer page to the WYSIWYG tab. There is an option in settings to open pages in the Source tab. Always select that option and never use WYSIWYG.
              Pat Bremkamp
              MindKicks Consulting


              • #8
                Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple

                see below
                Last edited by kkfin; 06-29-2017, 07:14 AM.


                • #9
                  Re: New to Alpha and confused with something simple

                  Originally posted by kkfin View Post
                  But if you need type words like Teemu Sel
                  New Try....

                  But if you need type words any words with extended characters then the Alphas editor is useless because it saves the page in ANSI format and breaks these words.

                  In html -page line <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /> does not solve this coding problem because the initial format of saved *.a5w page is ANSI format.

                  I wonder why developer can not choose in Alpha ANSI or UTF-8 as the format of saved page in Alphas settings?

                  EDIT This forum also breaks these words so can not give example but Teemu Selanne(Selanne in native format) would be a good example.
                  Last edited by kkfin; 06-29-2017, 07:15 AM.