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  • #16
    Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

    Originally posted by kctermite View Post
    For my data source I am using a List on a UX, but instead of sample data I am getting my data from my database (MySQL) on the remote server. Using the older method with a detail view, I have been able to SYNC my edits back to the server just fine. I would like an example of how to SYNC data back to the server after using the new Form View. The editing and saving is straightforward, but the synchronization has not been covered yet, right? In the sample App it is not applicable since it is not using SQL as the data source, but static data.

    (I would like to make a simple edit, saving to the List Control, which I can do now, but then see that change sync up with the MySQL database (I named my table "practice", having made a copy of a table I have been using all year for home inspections).
    Can't you just add a button with dialog.object submit code attached to the on click event or similarly to a normal data bound list or UX, etc?
    NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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    • #17
      Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

      Once I let it sink in that the Form View IS the Detail View when dealing with the List now, I checked the box "Has Detail View", and then I could use the list control genie to create a "Synchronize" button for my UX...once I did that, I was back to what I am used to seeing in the list with the "Synchronize" button becomes enabled. It remains EZ to Sync the way I am used to. The Form View is fantastic and now that I see how EZ it is to synchronize my edits, and from Selwyn's demo of the switch control and styling, etc. being so easily used on the Form View where desired, well...I'm ready now to go ahead and re-vamp my inspection app for easier use on my tablet...I have previously had so much trouble with my view being pushed off the screen (partially), so that it was hard to use the keyboard...but now, with the editor overlays, this will be a piece of cake. I imagine I was not supposed to get hung up on how to sync changes to my databases, but I needed to see that in action, not merely using static data before I was willing re-invent the wheel, even though it was going to be a really, really better wheel in the end.

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      • #18
        Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

        Originally posted by CharlesParker View Post
        I am watching the videos and I am so excited about how all of this will dramatically improve the user experience. What I would be interested in is an example of an absolute layout for an editor set, perhaps a really groovy background (maybe even an animated gif?)
        Regarding animations - Do you have any examples or ideas in mind of what this would look like? Or are you looking to just use a gif as a background image?

        Originally posted by CharlesParker View Post
        Also would it be possible to provide a separate forum/thread to share some of our editor sets, not unlike the code archive?
        Everyone is always encouraged to share what they create! We could start an Editor thread in the Beta forum. Do you have an editors you'd like to share?
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        • #19
          Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

          In regards to an animation/gif I want to be able to incorporate velocity.js to build "harder, better, faster, stronger!" (daft punk reference) animations into things like loaders, and alert msg boxes. This is of course is as of this moment beyond my ability. see this URL for examples...
          http://codepen.io/collection/tIjGb/



          so it would be more than just an animated gif, although yes that would be nice to see a simple absolute layout container (editor set) with lets say a css close button that changes color onclick. Since I have not began to look at this yet, I assume this would be as per normal alpha methods - or at least similarly accomplished.
          Keep in mind that I hope to be part of this BETA team as someone who is NOT an Alpha Expert and hope I can at least offer insight into the noob perspective.

          Also I do not have an editor set to share but will absolutely share anything I have built and would encourage others to do the same.
          NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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          • #20
            Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

            http://codepen.io/fbrz/pen/mpiFE
            example that would be awesome for a wait msg on submit...IMO
            NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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            • #21
              Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

              With the ability to drill-down into Alpha's code blocks for modifying and adding functionality, this probably isn't as far beyond your ability as you might think. I've got some serious groundwork on another project to do, but if I can get to this before you do, I'll provide an example.

              Regardless, thanks for providing the link to codepen.io - I had no idea it existed!

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              • #22
                Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                I would like to see some photo filters that we can choose from as an automatic part of Alphas tablet optimized forms image upload editors or such.

                Currently we can upload images, but often our images suck - the color is off and there is no better example than Instagram right now. You take a photo and you can apply some quick image filters before upload. As a developer, if I could offer say 12 different filters to be applied to the image prior to upload - or perhaps a focus point as in a tilt shift on the focus...BOY would that make us as developers stand out in the crowd and of course Alpha who provides the tools, right out of the box!
                NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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                • #23
                  Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                  Originally posted by CharlesParker View Post
                  I would like to see some photo filters that we can choose from as an automatic part of Alphas tablet optimized forms image upload editors or such.
                  Or a video demonstrating how to use controls allowing the image resolution to be set programmatically on the mobile device, since not all inspection photos require full resolution shots. While this could certainly be accomplished after images are pushed to the server, presetting on the device would reduce server load, and allowing the selection of lower-resolution images (and video clips) would save a lot of server space.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                    Originally posted by mbunds View Post
                    It would be beneficial to have a resource that specifies the extra functionality that Tablet Optimized Forms brings (or will bring) in comparison to the basic Alpha Anywhere package.

                    So far, I see nothing that could not be replicated using basic Alpha Anywhere, albeit attaining some advanced functions would require "tweaking" of the code-behind, the integration of externally developed scripts, or both.

                    Being a .WPF developer, I am used to creating data views and dynamic, data-driven animations either from scratch, or by leveraging ready-made control templates like those offered by Telerik, Dundas, and others.

                    We purchased Alpha Anywhere shortly before the concept of "Tablet Optimized Forms" was introduced, and only after careful examination of the basic package revealed to us that it was more than suitable for creating "clipboard replacement" applications, which is what we wanted to develop all along.

                    The videos providing the overviews are excellent, but the value added to the basic package seems somewhat nebulous to me since I can't really tell if the TOF add-ons are going to be a collection of prefabricated controls which allow a developer to "drag, drop, and modify" by adjusting parameters, a collection of prefabricated forms, or a set of utilities exposing different API features.

                    Of course, being that Alpha's "Tablet Optimized Forms" features and functions are still under development, I realize that much of the functionality will crystallize as the Alpha team works through the functionality requested by its customers.
                    Long-term, Alpha plans to add Genies and Builders to generate the interfaces users want to add to their tablets. For Example, Custom Keypads. Right now, there's a quite a bit of coding that you have to do to create a custom keypad with a corresponding ViewBox that displays the value in the field that is edited. Reducing this down to a drop-in component or a "Custom Keypad Genie" with a few parameters vastly improves usability.

                    This is one example. There are more - which is where you come in.

                    One of the reasons we are asking for feedback for what kind of training videos you want is so we can flush out use cases so we can focus on building the tools that people will actually need and use rather than guessing as to what you might do and hoping we hit the mark. This makes a better use of developer time since we'll be building what customers are going to be using. Since builders, genies, and tools will be built to support your needs, this in turn will make building applications significantly easier for you, allowing you to produce more applications in a shorter time frame.

                    The feedback everyone has been providing in this forum has been excellent! I want to reassure everyone that I have been passing requests on to the development team - even if I don't always reply. ;)
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                    • #25
                      Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                      Drag and Drop...I need to build a scheduling screen and would like to use a control that allows "drag-drop-dock" functionality. I have located a freeware JavaScript library called "interact.js" containing the base functionality necessary (and I believe that the latest JQuery library may also have drag-drop-dock support), but it would be a nice addition to "Tablet Optimized Forms" to have containers with drag-drop capability built-in. I'm not sure, but I think Alpha Desktop applications support "tool bars" that might be used for this function. I don't know yet if there are any ways to make this work for mobile apps.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                        As far as training videos go, it would be great to watch a more in depth video of an application that integrates a stripe payment and sends (emails) the customer a PDF reciept THEN updates another sql table to record the order as paid based on the returned info from stripe.
                        Obviously this would require at least 3 videos - and an understanding of the API and thats where things get tricky for most ( at least in my mind) because we get how to build the UX and the databinding and putting in our stripe credentials and then comes the part where it gets fuzzy.
                        working with the API.
                        You see this type of thing in the forums all the time. I see even the long timers posting questions about these outside API's and how to return the calls - like Twilio for instance.
                        So to me a video showing how to process the return info from stripe would be extremely beneficial. Maybe even creating a subscription?

                        Thanks in advance!
                        NWCOPRO: Nuisance Wildlife Control Software My Application: http://www.nwcopro.com "Without forgetting, we would have no memory at all...now what was I saying?"

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                        • #27
                          Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                          Originally posted by CharlesParker View Post
                          As far as training videos go, it would be great to watch a more in depth video of an application that integrates a stripe payment and sends (emails) the customer a PDF reciept THEN updates another sql table to record the order as paid based on the returned info from stripe.
                          Obviously this would require at least 3 videos - and an understanding of the API and thats where things get tricky for most ( at least in my mind) because we get how to build the UX and the databinding and putting in our stripe credentials and then comes the part where it gets fuzzy.
                          working with the API.
                          You see this type of thing in the forums all the time. I see even the long timers posting questions about these outside API's and how to return the calls - like Twilio for instance.
                          So to me a video showing how to process the return info from stripe would be extremely beneficial. Maybe even creating a subscription?

                          Thanks in advance!
                          Hi Charles!

                          Have you watched Stripe video in the library? http://www.alphasoftware.com/video-l...&search=stripe Towards the end of the video, there's some information about working with the data returned from Stripe, including a method in the {dialog.object} itself that can be used to get the API result. Is this the kind of thing you're looking for?

                          UPDATE:

                          I also wanted to make sure you saw the Stripe documentation in the Release Notes. You can download the component used in the video I previously mentioned.
                          Last edited by Sarah Mitchell; 09-02-2015, 11:18 AM.
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                          • #28
                            Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                            Hi Charles,

                            To echo your point I completely agree about Stripe. The new feature that allows you to plugin your information is cool but it would be great to understand how to call the API in xBasic and get the values back and work with them, that is the true power!

                            Scott

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                            • #29
                              Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                              I am interested in the example promised here that demonstrates how to build a form that has database-driven dynamic fields, as Pat described. Also, is any video or other documentation available regarding ViewBoxes? I'm confused about the use-case for them. How and when would one use a ViewBox (as opposed to a FormView, for example)?

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                              • #30
                                Re: Tablet Training Videos: What do YOU need

                                Originally posted by dougeven View Post
                                Also, is any video or other documentation available regarding ViewBoxes? I'm confused about the use-case for them. How and when would one use a ViewBox (as opposed to a FormView, for example)?
                                Hi Doug,

                                Check out our "Creating a 'Star Rating' Control using a ViewBox" video. This video focuses on using the ViewBox to build a star rating control. It covers many aspects of working with the ViewBox.

                                Additionally, there are several samples in the ViewBox control that can be loaded from the Home tab in the ViewBox Builder. Check them out!
                                Sarah Mitchell
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