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  • using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

    Is there any settings in a alpha grid that has tablet optimization. We can not use lists as it has many limitations.
    In asp.net if I use kendo grid the grid resizes for tablets. I would love to see similar feature in alpha grid.

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    Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

    for example like this-
    http://demos.telerik.com/kendo-ui/grid/index

    If you resize browser windows to tablet/phone the grid columns resizes.

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    • #3
      Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

      The Grid Component is not designed nor optimized for mobile.
      Sarah Mitchell
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      • #4
        Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

        Thanks Sarah. In alpha software the most powerfull control is grid(add, edit, delete, export, filter, search). I hope alpha makes this responsive.(via boostrap or kendo css)

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          Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

          Originally posted by amitloh View Post
          Thanks Sarah. In alpha software the most powerfull control is grid(add, edit, delete, export, filter, search). I hope alpha makes this responsive.(via boostrap or kendo css)
          Everything you describe here is also supported by the List control in a UX Component. The Grid Component is a very "heavy" control and can grow quite large very quickly. We recommend using the List Control, which supports running in both mobile and web environments, including conflict resolution, offline data access, access to the file system, client side and server side search and filtering, export and import, and more.

          Can you give specific reasons why you are using the Grid Component and feel the List control is too limiting?
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          • #6
            Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

            the flying genie creates grids and not lists. does list support in line editing? All of your major app demo(app server demo contains more samples for grids).
            We do not want to spend time on going deep dive in lists if there are limitations or doing it via workaround. we need real rapid way to create quick web based app that works on all devices that allows inline editing of grid (responsive). Also lists in alpha do not support in line editing. Your grids can be made responsive by applying kendo or boostrap css(just like iphone css). also there are multiple demos of lists with 3 click save which will not work for our clients as client expect one click save in large forms and grids. Imagine google asking you to click 3 times to login to gmail(click, click1 and sync)
            Last edited by amitloh; 03-31-2017, 09:30 PM.

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            • #7
              Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

              I agree that you can build grids much faster than lists. Also, grids are generally faster rendering in my experience. In-line editing and row-expanders are a really useful aspect of grids IMO. The lack of a true row-expander in lists is an issue for me. But lists are critical for mobile and the UX is a ridiculously powerful and versatile tool. But it does take a lot of work which is why I mostly use grids if I don't need mobile. I do use the UX a lot for straight web stuff (as a form tool) because you do almost anything with it. Just wish they would come up with some decent looking styles that would apply to grids, UX, tabbed_ui, etc. An artist, I'm not.
              Peter
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              • #8
                Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

                P.S. With UX you can do one-click save, but again, you may have to do a lot of work to get there. But they give you a lot of ways to do that.
                Peter
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                • #9
                  Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

                  "lots of work" is the reason for the rad tools to exist. I was able to make alpha grid responsive but it's again work for me

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                  • #10
                    Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

                    True, but I don't see any other magic RAD tools out there. Web, mobile, it's all complicated stuff. The tools can take you a certain distance and then you have to do the hard work. And I've looked at a number of RAD products out there. I've yet to find the magical dragon slayer.
                    Peter
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                    • #11
                      Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

                      you are right! Alpha is awesome in data handling with so many features. I tried many other RAD tools but no one comes close to alpha.
                      I am requesting responsiveness in grids and few other controls via feature request. I hope they add it in next release. Its not that difficult as I did it on one grid.
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                      • #12
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                        https://css-tricks.com/examples/Resp...responsive.php

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                        • #13
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                          @Amit above post

                          getting Invalid Attachment specified
                          Last edited by user10; 04-01-2017, 10:08 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

                            That example is very cool.
                            Peter
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                              Re: using grids in tablet optimised forms(resize behaviour)

                              the attachment is invalid, and from the post #11 i cannot expand the image to see the result.
                              i am pretty sure selwyn did something similar with @media query screen with list control.
                              thanks for reading

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