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Re: Here We Are.! Where to Next?
I still deal with users everyday running windows XP and NT. I hear from new clients each week saying they want an app on the DT and not a web based app. My competitor is pushing a web based app it my sale have gone up due to it. As time goes forward more people are wanting to have full control over an app and the feeling of safety in having it on their own computer. There is a big market for web based apps but the DT is far from dead.
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Originally posted by Windstarsoftware View PostI stayed with V11.5 for DT. There is nothing new in V12 for DT and that's where I want to be. There is still a big demand for DT apps.
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I stayed with V11.5 for DT. There is nothing new in V12 for DT and that's where I want to be. There is still a big demand for DT apps.
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Re: Here We Are.! Where to Next?
Originally posted by martinwcole View PostYou can buy the desktop only and it will include the runtime - contact sales. I know because I bought it that way.Last edited by Ray in Capetown; March 25, 2014, 12:10 PM.
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Originally posted by martinwcole View PostRay,
Yes it was V12. I bought a subscription that DID NOT include the WAS - significantly less that the full monty.
The main thing is that if you want anything contact your salesman[/U].
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Ray,
Yes it was V12. I bought a subscription that DID NOT include the WAS - significantly less that the full monty.
The main thing is that if you want anything contact your salesman[/U].
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That is flawed logic. It assumes there is a need for WAS. DT does not need it.
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Originally posted by Vince McGinnis View PostI talked to sales in February and they sold me the DT version and the Runtime. I did not get the web server. It included one year of updates.
But the logic today seems to be that if desktop developer needs to have runtime he needs to buy Was server and gets runtime free.
So I suppose that if web developer needs to have Was server he has to buy runtime and then gets server free.
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I talked to sales in February and they sold me the DT version and the Runtime. I did not get the web server. It included one year of updates.
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Originally posted by martinwcole View PostYou can buy the desktop only and it will include the runtime - contact sales. I know because I bought it that way.
I've just mailed sales - as many times as I read the offerings I interpret DT runtime attached to the WAS purchase.
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Yup, and that is one reason why I started this thread and sent an email to Richard. I have had 2 subscriptions thus far and as best I can remember, there has only been one item that was released for subscribers only and that was not to long after the subscriptions first began. Frankly, I see no need whatsoever for a subscription. At lest, Alpha has not been able to communicate that message to me, you and many others. For some reason, Alpha's always had a tough time coming up with a pricing strategy. Coming up with all these sales does not help the situation.
Sale after sale can indicate instability. sales are extended for one reason only, it flopped. If its successful, there is not need to extend it nor should it be. Extended sales send the wrong message, a message of failure and insecurity. Insecure that it flopped and trying a last gasp effort. Customers need to now a vendor is of their word. End the sale and move on. Extending sales as often as Alpha has done has promulgated a feeling of , why buy now, even it it ends, they'll just extend it or bring it back in a few weeks. Sales deadlines are for creating a sense of urgency and when they are not kept, that sense is GONE!!!!Last edited by forskare; March 24, 2014, 01:59 PM.
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Originally posted by forskare View PostIf the prior includes updates, then, in effect, one has a subscription, correct?
The question however is why you would purchase a subscription above purchasing straightout. I didn't...... and when enough changes, I'll (maybe) purchase again.....
I also know, that the change from "subscription only" to having a system where you could also purchase WAS made quite instantly after it appeared that the "subscription only" system was not going to work. Alpha does have a track record of making snap decisions that way. Mostly it's only later when the problems occur that those snap decisions created. The fact that there does not seem to be much reason to purchase a subscription anymore does seem to be one of those "problems". Just saying.... dunno.....
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Originally posted by forskare View PostTo Preston,
No one should go by old website information but rather what's on the 'official' web site. That is what rules. That is what one goes by. Currently, it does lack a bit of clarity, hence this thread. I did send an email to Richard and hopefully, will get clarification.
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