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I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

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  • I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

    The app has about 770 tables, and a lot of other stuff like screens, reports, etc.
    I created a shadow, and so far it runs with no issues, with a very cursory test.
    Will keep you posted as I go

    A few years ago, an other app also in 10.5 ran in V11 with no changes or issues - so I am betting on the come that it will work with V12 - since very little has been changed on the desktop since 10.5

    If anyone else has any issues with running a 10.5 app on V12, please let me know.

    We (my client) are going to get a new server 2012 and are looking at using T/S instead of shadow. I feel certain 10.5 would not run on 2012, with T/S, since it is a "windows 8 base" product.
    Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
    972 524 8714
    [email protected]

    ____________________
    "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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    Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

    The only way to tell is to download a trial of 2012 and test that scenario.
    With that large of an app, I would move it to v11 or v12 for sure, but I am sure there are reasons why you don't want to.
    Also would keep the shadowed system instead unless there are defining reasons for not doing so.
    I think I read somewhere here the rough pricing for desktop only with runtime is about 600.00-700.00 for v12/AA (Remember some stuff does not work with desktop only like wdt).
    Dave Mason
    [email protected]
    Skype is dave.mason46

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      Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

      I already have V12 - and am testing
      The reason for going to T/S is speed - it is much much faster then shadow, and no data travels back and forth - keystokes sent, and screen refreshes back.
      Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
      972 524 8714
      [email protected]

      ____________________
      "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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        Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

        One minor issue:
        at the oninit event of the main form, where they enter a password, if they don't enter a password it does an a5.close()
        It would not work in V12, so moved it to the autoexec where it does work. One disturbing thing, though, is that even though the controlpanel is hidden, instead of closing it just closed the form and took them to the control panel, and it IS NOT hidden.

        I will send a bug report on that one - as it is a major security risk.
        Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
        972 524 8714
        [email protected]

        ____________________
        "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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          Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

          Martin, I have used a5.close() in the autoexec several times without any issue so I'm not sure why it's giving you trouble. Speculating, are you hiding the control panel through the autoexec or workspace properties? If it is one of those 2 but not both, try setting in both locations. Also, make sure you have selected the "control panel to show when the workspace is opened" which is under the workspace properties. Coming from v10, it may be blank and that may be part of the problem.
          Thanks,
          James

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            Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

            You misread my post - I moved it to the autoexec to fix the issue.
            Alpha has since responded that they will look into it, but that it only occurs if it occurs on the startup form if it is not set in database properties.
            Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
            972 524 8714
            [email protected]

            ____________________
            "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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              Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

              I can report that so far, with that one minor exception, everything works without need for modification. But by maybe this coming Wednesday, I am going to have two users start using it. They will be running the most complicated part of the app, and both running it at the same time. That will be a great test.

              Will post results of same be the end of the week.
              Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
              972 524 8714
              [email protected]

              ____________________
              "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                Martin,

                I will be looking forward to your report.
                Dave Mason
                [email protected]
                Skype is dave.mason46

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                  Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                  Me, too. Thanks.

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                    Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                    I ran into a hitch, today. The module I am tsting has to do a printer override and redirect to a label printer. As nearly as I can tell, V12 uses a different amiuni driver that V10. V10 redirects perfectly but V12 gave me an error message "error communicating with printer." I will do a debug this weekend, and confirm that it is redirecting to the correct device. And if it still errors out will send in a bug report.
                    Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                    972 524 8714
                    [email protected]

                    ____________________
                    "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                      Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                      most excellent news - it was picking the wrong printer on one workstation
                      so - no problems so far
                      Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                      972 524 8714
                      [email protected]

                      ____________________
                      "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                        Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                        So far, so good
                        I added accounting today, so now orders and invoices/statements will be run with V12
                        After another week, if all goes well, I will move everyone to V12, retaining their ability to use either V10 or V12 shadow, for at least one more week after that

                        Orders reported Friday that it was running slow, but they got no errors, and again today all is well, so I told them it was most likely the network was slow. One day out of 2 weeks was slow, all other days same as 10.

                        I'm also having a friend test V10.5 on terminal services on a Server 2012. If V10.5 will run there, then V12 would not be required - although so long as it works, I will use it.
                        Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                        972 524 8714
                        [email protected]

                        ____________________
                        "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                          Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                          with about 11 concurrent users, and all but 3 accessing via 10.5 shadow, and 3 accessing via 12 shadow - no issues

                          12 does seem to load a little slower than 10, but once open seems to run about the same speed

                          so ...... so far so good
                          Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                          972 524 8714
                          [email protected]

                          ____________________
                          "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                            Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                            Martin
                            I switched over a fairly complex app from 10.5 to v12 (dev side only) last weekend and it was a simultaneous W7 to W8 so some cosmetic differences may be W8, like A5 titles centered with a different font. v10 has been in beta test with a user for three weeks only single user for this stage.
                            I am away for a bit of a holiday in Turkey for 10 days but moving on with development in between shishkebabs & touring.

                            I haven't test on the client side yet but I'm watching your progress and will report anything here - this is a useful share for me and the tech engineer is setting up TS not sure which vers.

                            The only difference I can report with Alpha so far is that wrap text in a browse no longer loses a character.

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                              Re: I am testing a large app written with 10.5 in V12 (desktop)

                              Well, at this point, since I have had no new issues I am going to move the remaining users to V12 Runtime for running the app, shadowed.
                              And then when we go to T/S I will know that there are no issues moving from V10.5 to V12.

                              Plus, in the event that anything new is added for the desktop, we will be in position to use it.
                              And if I do run into any bugs, V12 is where they would be fixed.
                              Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                              972 524 8714
                              [email protected]

                              ____________________
                              "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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