Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

[SC2014]

Can anybody help me please ,trying to save Forms ,in Alpha 12 , Keep getting unknown dos errors ,Have full permissions on this PC ,have had this trouble ,with older versions
Thank you

[DaveM]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

Several questions that may help.
is your application in a folder on the root drive of the disk and NOT in program files?
The forms are actually saved in a file associated with the dbf or set they are based on.
Is the table(s) and or set in the same folder with the adb?
You said you had this problem before? How did you remedy the problem then??

Can you please describe in detail what is happening after you create the form?
Did you restart alpha after you saved the form? and was it there after a restart?

[SC2014]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

Running Win 8.1 Just cant save any forms at all ,after a restart ,no forms at all ,Application is in programme files ,
Gave up on Alpha ,because of this ,now trying it again ,so frustrating , This is the message I get ,when trying to save files Unknown DosError C:\Users\Stephen\documents \Backup \Table \Deliveries \Form\Deliveries.A5.bak
Thank you Dave

[Bob Whitaker]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

I think maybe you answered your own question when you stated the application was within the programmes files folder.
Try moving your application to its own folder on the root (C) drive of your computer and see if that resolves the issue.

[DaveM]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

Stephen,

I am on win8.1 my alpha dev is in "program files (x86)" My applications are on the drive c:\ or D:\ in a relevant folder.

Windows/MS has been trying since Vista to eliminate data files from program files. It has gotten worse with each version of windows since. It looks at a ddm file as a data file(which it is) and a ddx as an index file(which it is).
DBF and FPT are know data files of course.

Added: I, like most others, install the runtime outside of program files for simplicity.

[martinwcole]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

When you install Alpha V12 or Alpha V12 Runtime, by default they will install in x86 program files - and they will work just fine there.
You may also install them in another drive, like C:\

BUT

Your program must NEVER be installed in any program files folder - it must be installed in another folder, like C:\my application name or d:\my application name

the Alpha engine and related files are in one folder - and the programs that it runs are in other (their own) folders - period.

[MoGrace]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

Hi Martin,
Are you saying that my current setup in XP will not work in Win 8? I put each ver of the A5 program in its own directory on C: and each ver of my apps in a subdirectory of the A5 program folder. It was my understanding in the beginning that this was where Alpha expected to find the application files.

I try to avoid the program files and my documents folders if at all possible...

[martinwcole]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

As long as your application folder is not in any program files folder
I have maybe 30 different applications, each one in its own folder - but I don't keep them in the Alpha folder; however, that is a personal preference, not a requirement.

After XP, Microsoft made it increasingly difficult to get an application to run in progranm files (a Microsoft safety preference)

[DaveM]

Re: Trying to save Forms in Alpha 12

Martin,

After XP, Microsoft made it increasingly difficult to get an application to run in progranm files (a Microsoft safety preference)

That started with Vista. It was difficult to run or save anything in P files. It was relaxed as updates came out. We were doing Vista on all the new machines we built at the time as OEM.
Each version of windows has tightened that a bit more.