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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Ray,
    It really is just not a great deal. One can get the hard drive serial and other things just as easy using alpha. I intend to use all alpha functions for the process.
    The real test is the generated number. That is tested right away and the md/hd/other is secondary.

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  • Raymond Lyons
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Originally posted by DaveM View Post
    ...I don't have a cheap serial board, but it has no serial number. It is several years( around 2008) old but runs at 3200ghz+ I have found a lot of MB's have no serial....
    Have you tried wmic baseboard get serialnumber on the command prompt? Maybe just luck but that has always worked for me. Of course it may just be what WIN_MOTHERBOARD() uses and my luck has been good, but I would try it.

    Ray Lyons

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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    This should work

    regtest.zip

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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Any of those is fine

    as far as your updates: I you placed it in the ftp folder, you could download it the same way. Then run it or unzip it with alpha functions.

    I don't have a cheap serial board, but it has no serial number. It is several years( around 2008) old but runs at 3200ghz+ I have found a lot of MB's have no serial.

    am re-uploading the zip file - that one was done by windows

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  • preston2
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Originally posted by DaveM View Post
    The ftp I gave will only get you to one folder on one of my sites.


    try the product instead - some boards have no serial and will give none
    or concatenate two together

    Product = "A785G3"

    maybe get "A785G3none"

    Idea is to get something unique
    It does not get me anywhere. It is just a zip file with backup files in it.

    The "Product" will not always be unique but the "Serial Number" will always be unique. I guess if you have a real cheep MB it may not have a serial number You could always put the Product and Serial Number together and then it would be real unique or Maybe Product + Machine Name.

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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    The ftp I gave will only get you to one folder on one of my sites.


    try the product instead - some boards have no serial and will give none
    or concatenate two together

    Product = "A785G3"

    maybe get "A785G3none"

    Idea is to get something unique
    Last edited by DaveM; 05-19-2015, 07:41 PM.

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  • preston2
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Yea I found WIN_MOTHERBOARD() after I posted above.

    dim vc_mbserial as c
    dim maboard as p
    maboard = WIN_MOTHERBOARD()
    vc_mbserial = maboard.serialnumber

    Gets me the serial number.

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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    I am just using this for right now. It is the motherboard. I did not take the time to get the serial number for this. This is just one of many available.

    Code:
    function setthis as c()
    dim setthis as c
    dim themotherboard as P
    themotherboard = WIN_MOTHERBOARD()
    var->setthis = themotherboard.Product
    end function
    
    
    from the test:
    s = win_motherboard()  
    
    ?s
    = Caption = "Base Board"
    ConfigOptions = <No data returned>
    Depth = <No data returned>
    Description = "Base Board"
    Height = <No data returned>
    HostingBoard = .T.
    HotSwappable = .F.
    InstallDate = <No data returned>
    Manufacturer = "BIOSTAR Group"
    Model = <No data returned>
    Name = "Base Board"
    OtherIdentifyingInfo = <No data returned>
    PartNumber = <No data returned>
    PoweredOn = .T.
    Product = "A785G3"
    Removable = .F.
    Replaceable = .T.
    RequirementsDescription = <No data returned>
    RequiresDaughterBoard = .F.
    SerialNumber = "None"
    SKU = <No data returned>
    SlotLayout = <No data returned>
    SpecialRequirements = <No data returned>
    Status = "OK"
    Tag = "Base Board"
    Version = " "
    Weight = <No data returned>
    Width = <No data returned>
    Last edited by DaveM; 05-19-2015, 07:27 PM.

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  • preston2
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Dave are you using "wmic baseboard get serialnumber" to get the MB serial number?

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  • preston2
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Originally posted by DaveM View Post
    This is something you can look at.

    The ftp is only for one folder, so open with filezilla if you wish so you can see what is happening. This is just a start of course. Zip file best run in c:\regtest.

    [ATTACH]40341[/ATTACH]
    It only has a backup folder with a sets and tables sub folders. Looks like a workspace backup folder.

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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    I sell my car lot app in several ways. Finally broke it down to:
    1
    5
    10
    20
    and unlimited
    I have as many as 40 concurrent users in a couple of locations

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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    This is something you can look at.

    The ftp is only for one folder, so open with filezilla if you wish so you can see what is happening. This is just a start of course. Zip file best run in c:\regtest.
    Last edited by DaveM; 05-19-2015, 11:36 PM.

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  • preston2
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Trials are a must for me.
    If I did not care how many RT installs were done then they would just buy one license unless it was locked to a specific computer.

    AIMS does not use the rmuf to limit user count. Cal does it some other way that I am not aware of but I do not need to set any limits for throttling, is all controlled by AIMS via the registration number creation.

    But if they had to purchase a license for each computer they installed it on then there is no need to care how many concurrent users access the db files on a network.

    Using the MB serial number would be fine as long as I did not have to do anything using the process.

    Most all my end-users buy 1 or 2 licenses. Some use them in network mode but most do not.

    The ideal scenario would be that I would not need to do shit except collect money. The purchase process would automatically send them registration information based on their purchase and automatically allow registration.

    There are some ready to go solutions that would do all that fully automated but the way A5 uses the Alpha5.exe file it is almost impossible to lock everything down. At least I think it would.

    I have one software that I use and they could care less how many machines you install it on but it can only register and run on one computer per license purchased. If you have it registered to one PC and then start it up on another PC it will tell you that it is licensed to another computer and ask you if you want to transfer the licence. If you say you do then it will transfer to the new computer and then stop working on the old computer.

    I wonder if there is a way to wrap the Alpha5.exe file into another exe file using VS and then you could totally control it.

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  • DaveM
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    Preston,

    1. dated: and allow xx days with warnings as time gets closer.
    2. like the MB serial number
    3. on start of app each time
    4. The licensing limits is not a part of my scenario for this implementation, but have been doing that for some time with another app.
    5. I don't care how many rt installs. I count current users and limit it there. key is "rmuf" to the count allowed. Using throttling has to be completed before install if my information is correct. With you own code, it can be changed later as needed.
    6. No Pay = final shut down
    7. No such thing, but I am making certain steps toward it including use of aex for key steps where if the aex is deleted, app shuts down


    The one I am working on now is fairly simple. Very secure. Does use a website.
    client downloads software by making the purchase.
    on install/first start, a required registration pops up. Once they have filled this out, a random 8 digit number is generated on their machine and place in a text file and sent ftp to my site. This is auto retrieved on my end and parsed to a table and verified for payment. On payment verification from paypal, an email is sent back with the 8 digit code for them to insert to keep their software running. Client will never see the text files or even know it happened.

    If I do trials, it will be a way around the registration and reg will pop up everytime. I want it in their face all the time until done.

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  • preston2
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    Re: registration of my application with a user

    I currently use AIMS registration routines. It works extremely well and is very secure but like Dave stated in his original post, it requires that they send me information and then I have the generate a registration number and email it back to them. This can be a hassle so I need to find way to automate the process.

    Things I need to be able to do is set a trial period that allows them to try the app first and then lock it down after the trial is over.
    Then if they purchase, give them a two part registration information such as a "Registered to" and then a "Serial Number".

    This registration information would then need to check online and if valid send some kind of code back to the app allowing it to be activated. At the same time writing something to the web file locking that install info to that machine only.

    There are plenty of solutions out there already made but they "Wrap" an exe file so there would be away around it if the user figured out all they needed to do was replace the Alpha5.exe file with a new one that was not wrapped.

    Got to be a way to;
    1. Allow a trial period
    2. Lock it down to a machine
    3. Automate the process
    4. Set install limits based on licenses purchased
    5. Set user count limit for network installs
    6. Insure you get paid for what they are using.
    7. Hack proof

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