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Runtime Changes I'm in the Twilight zone?

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    Runtime Changes I'm in the Twilight zone?

    I am going to be stupid here.
    I just ran the Alpha 5 version 12 program and the latest version update or download full package has changed to a universal installer?
    click on the new update link in the news section that used to take you to a download page just opens up a blank page. I can't seem to find any info on it.
    I would normally use the runtime setup file from full download on a new install and now it seems different where you run an update from a new window and nothing on a full new install or maybe update is full package?
    You guys obviously know the scoop as this is a new feature that came along while I was away and new to me.

    My guess is I must now use my folder of runtime files updated on development machine and complete an installer program to install everything now?

    Thank you in advance for any guidance here on doing a client runtime install to support an application. I don't want to start thinking wrong straight away getting into this again.

    Thank you,

    You should be able to download an older full installable version from here:

    Alpha Anwhere Archived Updates (

    You can then use the new installer to update it to the most recent version once it's installed.


      I had just found that area just before reading your reply and I will try some things in Windows Sandbox now for quick and easy testing to figure out what I need to do in my packaged version where it does not scream I am using Alpha Software. Basically I was repackaging the install to just install without a bunch of ads saying find out more at Alpha website. Thanks again!



        I ran the universal installer runtime in Windows Sandbox and there seems to be some files that check for update or something in registry maybe as I get error when trying to write registry entries during a custom packaged install, whatever the case can anyone tell me with the new method how you would distribute the runtime to a client. Do I copy all the runtime files(directory) on development machine along with registry entries and package up with an installer and when things change that affect application like a bug fix update runtime directory on development machine and then package it all up to roll out bug fix to client? Also I thought when doing a runtime install you could rename the directory to something other than Alpha5V12 runtime and it would change location in registry entry. Now it specifies the directory name to be Alpha 5 name no matter what. Maybe I am confused as I am trying to remember it all from last year.
        I was packaging runtime in the application directory as a subfolder different name like components or just runtime engine.

        Basically I prefer to have a runtime that does not spell out that the client could go elsewhere to develop a similar more customized application or possibly use their IT Department to do a rapid development using Alpha5V12. I am overthinking, but have had it happen.



          You are confusing me.
          Do you want to install/reinstall the Alpha Development Application,
          A Runtime application which you have created somewhere else?
          See our Hybrid Option here;

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            Hi Ted,
            I confuse myself most of the time.
            I am specifically talking about the runtime that you would provide to the client to run your application.
            I guess I am making too much of it.

            Originally Alpha had a unbranded runtime installer you could create and then it went to you have to use a packaging tool which is fine.
            Now it looks to me a year later it might be a change in packaging to the client or maybe not?
            I guess my issue is I was out of the loop for over a year and I don't like change, so I need to catch up and change with the times and why I am in the Twilight zone.

            With that I am just wondering how everyone is providing the Alpha runtime to the client just to help me catch up.
            If everyone says no change then I just started overthinking the changes since I don't like change I guess?

            Thank you!



              Paul, you are not alone - time out of a loop causes you to doubt yourself and abilities. (As an aside, I forgot how to set a Dividing Head on my lathe as it was 4 years since I used it!).
              But back to your issue.
              Dave Mason - on this Forum - used Astrum very successfully. The code is free and works well.
              The documentation says which files to collect when building an install and without the Development tools, it is unlikely that anyone would be able to change anything.
              Having said that, if there is a free trial download of Alpha, then anyone could download and install it and then mess with your code.
              So, suggest that you lock all of your forms and scripts with passwords - which YOU WILL WRITE DOWN.
              I recommend that you use A5DOC as the best way to document and record the scripts, on which you can add the passwords as text, so you have a full record of the application.
              See our Hybrid Option here;

              We are the
              Department of Sunshine and Rainbows!

              Hope restored, faith renewed, spirits lifted!