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    Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

    I'm a long time user of Alpha Five, I just upgraded to version 12 and I'm frustrated by what appears to be a minor quirk. In every previous version of A5, when I clicked on a field in a form (while the record is in "Edit Mode"), I could right click with my mouse and select COPY from the drop down menu. I would then copy the value of the record stored in the field and paste it into something such as a PW field at a website. That no longer works. What's up with that?

    Now I have to take my hand off the mouse and use two hands to do a CTRL-C which works.
    Last edited by rtbtat; 01-18-2016, 03:33 PM. Reason: Clarify my question

    #2
    Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

    Works for me in Alpha Sports.

    Put the form in design mode.
    Right click on a field.
    Select properties.
    Select the Menus/Toolbars tab.
    Make sure the correct entry is in the drop down.

    Also, you can highlight the field, press ctrl-c to copy.
    Alpha 5 Version 11
    AA Build 2999, Build 4269, Current Build
    DBF's and MySql
    Desktop, Web on the Desktop and WEB

    Ron Anusiewicz

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      #3
      Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

      Thanks Ron, I'm very familiar with ctrl-c, but it's a lot more convenient to right click. I've been doing that forever.

      I didn't ask my question properly. I've been able to do this for 2 decades with every Alpha product. However, with ver 12, I cannot right click on a field and get the drop down menu in every single database. Therefore, the problem isn't unique to a specific database. Is this true for everyone running ver 12 or is there something going on with my copy of A5 running on Windows 10?

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        #4
        Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

        I do believe you asked the right question.
        You didn't try what I suggested you do.

        I'm not running windows 10 but the right click menu works fine in my v12
        unless I disable it. Then the right click menu doesn't work.
        I'm using Build 2999, Build 4519.

        Did you try this in Alpha Sports?

        Check this:
        Put the form in design mode.
        Right click on a field.
        Select properties.
        Select the Menus/Toolbars tab.
        Make sure the correct entry is in the drop down.

        I tried to upload an image but for some reason I can not.
        Last edited by Ronald Anusiewicz; 01-18-2016, 02:00 PM.
        Alpha 5 Version 11
        AA Build 2999, Build 4269, Current Build
        DBF's and MySql
        Desktop, Web on the Desktop and WEB

        Ron Anusiewicz

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          #5
          Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

          Ron, I believe you and I are talking about two different things. Before I get to why I'm saying this, let me say I've been able to right click on a field in any version of Alpha Five (prior to version 12) and a drop down menu would appear where one of the options was Copy. I could then copy a password or some other value stored in the data field, go to a website and paste in my PW. I cannot do that in Ver 12 while the record is in "Edit Mode" (The record, not the form).

          Ron said,

          Put the form in design mode.
          Right click on a field.
          Select properties.
          Select the Menus/Toolbars tab.
          Make sure the correct entry is in the drop down.

          1. What is the correct entry?
          2. I think this is a very different drop down menu than the one I'm referring to.

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            #6
            Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

            OK, you are saying "field". So I'm opening Alpha Sports.

            I close the Alpha Sports application.
            This leaves me at the control panel.
            I select the Tables/Sets tab.
            I then can open any table in the workspace. I'll choose invoice_header.
            I can select any field I can see in the browse.
            I right click on that field.
            A menu opens with 11 choices.
            Copy, Cut, Paste, Delete, etc........

            If you follow these steps, do you get the same results.
            I do believe I'm following your steps.

            What am I missing?

            If this doesn't answer you question, you should post a working example with a step by step procedure so we can duplicate what you are seeing. Otherwise, I don't think we can help you.
            Last edited by Ronald Anusiewicz; 01-18-2016, 04:42 PM.
            Alpha 5 Version 11
            AA Build 2999, Build 4269, Current Build
            DBF's and MySql
            Desktop, Web on the Desktop and WEB

            Ron Anusiewicz

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              #7
              Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

              I just tried it on a form with V12 and it worked just fine - using Windows 7 Pro
              Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
              972 524 8714
              [email protected]

              ____________________
              "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                #8
                Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                Thank you Martin, that's what I needed to know. On my Windows 10 system, whether I right click on field in a browse (as suggested by Ron) or in a form, there is NO drop down menu period and I must use Contrl-C to copy the value of the record. Ron, does that answer your question?

                Once again, what I described above happens in every one of the 25 or 30 database applications I have. It is not specific to any database.

                This was NOT a problem with Windows 10 and Ver 11. Therefore, the problem is Windows 10 in combination with A5 ver 12 or something unique only to my system which is not allowing me to see a drop down menu. This has to be the problem because I cannot believe Version 12 would suddenly do away with that drop down menu.

                Note: I thought it might be a Windows 10 setting but when I'm not in Alpha Five, I can right click on data and the drop down menu with the Copy & Paste option pops up.
                Last edited by rtbtat; 01-19-2016, 11:25 AM.

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                  #9
                  Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                  I believe Ron is trying to have you check the form properties to see if a right click menu has been set to <system> or <none> or a custom menu that Alpha cannot find. If for some reason it is being set to <none> as the default, that could be your problem. In prior versions the default was always <system>.
                  Robin

                  Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                    Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                    Robin, thank you so much for explaining what Ron was trying to tell me but he never did explain so I could understand him. I went into the database and tried every option I could think of for the right click menu such as "system" , <system>, etc. and none of them helped. If I read the directions correctly, this option is referring to a field which is locked, nonetheless I tried all of them. Anyway, I'm working in fields which aren't locked, they're in data entry mode.

                    Robin, something tells me I'm missing something which is obvious to everyone else. After more than a decade of working with Alpha Five and loving every minute, I find this little quirk so frustrating.

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                      #11
                      Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                      Over here Windows 10, A5v12 - as yours
                      When a form is in NOT in edit mode, click on a field with data, the R/click menu is not a "Field" menu but for the form. There is no "Copy" on it. Also Ctrl/C does not work
                      Put the form into edit mode and all works as you described and would expect.

                      Summary, you can only copy a value in a field when you can edit it. Check that you can edit a field, and see if the problem exists when you can.

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                        Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                        Ray in Capetown said, "Summary, you can only copy a value in a field when you can edit it. Check that you can edit a field, and see if the problem exists when you can."

                        Hello Ray, that's exactly what I've been saying all along. Please read what I wrote.

                        Ray also said, "Put the form into edit mode and all works as you described and would expect."

                        No, that's not what one would expect. I've been using Alpha Five for many more years than I care to say. I always had the ability to right click on a field in edit mode and get a drop down menu where I can copy the value of the record. I then go to a website and paste in that value which is usually a PW. For some bizarre reason, I cannot do that in Ver 12. I must instead take my hands off the mouse, and use 2 hands to do a Crtl-C, then go to the website and do a Ctrl-V.

                        Note: See what Martin Cole said above, he does in fact get a drop down menu where he can right click and copy the value of the record. If he can see it, why can't I?

                        Is this a major issue? Of course not, but it is very frustrating and makes my work slightly harder because I must copy a PW at least 12-15 times per day. More importantly, I still cannot figure out if this feature is no longer part of A5 or if there's some global setting I have to change to make it work. I'm actually more confused now then I was when I started the thread.
                        Last edited by rtbtat; 01-20-2016, 10:14 AM.

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                          #13
                          Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                          Originally posted by rtbtat View Post

                          Ray also said, "Put the form into edit mode and all works as you described and would expect."

                          No, that's not what one would expect. I've been using Alpha Five for many more years than I care to say. I always had the ability to right click on a field in edit mode and get a drop down menu where I can copy the value of the record.
                          You are contradicting yourself, I said that it works as you expect and you say that thats not what you expect and then describe the same thing as you always have had the ability to do.

                          In a "nut" shell, it is not wrong with v12/Win10 - it works here.
                          click on a field in edit mode and get a drop down menu where I can copy the value of the record.????

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                            #14
                            Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                            Even though I have the latest build, it's very possible I have a corrupt installation of Ver 12 because other features are not working such as report and form design components which are missing. I'm investigating that issue right now. If that's the case, it may make this entire thread a moot point.

                            I uninstalled Ver 11 and rebooted thinking that may have been the cause of a corrupt installation.
                            I then uninstalled Ver 12 and rebooted.
                            I installed Ver 12 and rebooted.
                            I still have no Report or Form Editing Components and I still can't right click and get a drop down menu in a record on a form in Edit Mode.

                            The Windows 10 Apps Panel shows Alpha Anywhere as installed but UNAVAILABLE.
                            Last edited by rtbtat; 01-20-2016, 04:28 PM.

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                              #15
                              Re: Cannot Right Click and Select Copy Anymore

                              This sounds like some obscure setting in Windows - not Alpha. Recommend you email [email protected] along with Selwyn and Cian. They may have an idea what the hangup is.
                              Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                              972 524 8714
                              [email protected]

                              ____________________
                              "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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