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    Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

    http://documentation.alphasoftware.c...20a%20Form.xml

    The link above shows a quick way of filtering form data "the easy way" instead of creating a query and applying it.
    I know it's the same thing as setting up a query via query pointers and using table.query_create() and I've been doing it this other "old school way."
    (Same method/results, only more lines of code setup.)

    I can't seem to find any additional method documentation anywhere (listed in the link above) relative to this simple table method: <object>:tables:<tableName>.query()
    (Same goes for: <object>:tables:<tableName>.filter_expression = <filter>)

    In the documentation link above it's used in the following code:
    parentform:tables:donations.filter_expression = " Donation_date > = var->startDate"
    parentform:tables:donations.query()

    I've entertained the idea that these might be special "table methods/properties of a form/layout" (dynamically set/used via a form's table property/method), but not seeing anything to support that idea. I've checked online help/offline (old help) without any success. ~ Could someone point me in the right direction to where this documentation is located?

    Easy enough to use, but it seems strange as there's no indexes/query.order (or other query options in this example) being set etc....
    Last edited by SNusa; 02-19-2017, 02:36 PM.
    Robert T. ~ "I enjoy manipulating data... just not my data."
    It's all about the "framework." (I suppose an "a5-induced" hard drive crash is now in order?)
    RELOADED: My current posting activity here merely represents a "Momentary Lapse Of Reason."

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    Re: Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

    There is very little in the documentation on form methods. To discover what is available the easiest I've found is to open a form in design mode, create or edit an existing object that has events, choose an event, choose use xbasic, then the xbasic explorer should appear in the lower right corner of the code editor. In the xbasic explorer, choose objects, windows, your form name, methods. All available will be revealed.

    You will also see and be able to explore the Tables level, its methods, and select individual tables and explore the available methods.

    form.png
    Last edited by Stan Mathews; 02-19-2017, 12:22 PM.
    There can be only one.

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      #3
      Re: Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

      Hi Stan;

      I had already looked there exhaustively. (Nothing in either the XBE or the object explorer.)
      I do recall speaking with Selwyn years ago when he indicated the methods/property lists that populate the XBE are not extracted from xbasic and objects etc. (They are manually entered in via data entry, much like the help files/documentation etc. ~ So it's not a comprehensive all inclusive list.) ~ Also presumably the reason using "drag & drop" from XBE occasionally results in coding issues/inconsistencies. (You occasionally find typo's and path inconsistencies, which if uncorrected after dragging/dropping result in coding errors.)

      If it were not for "tripping over" the page (while looking for something else) showing this quick and sweet way to apply temporary filters to child tables on forms, I can't find reference to this anywhere. And that's why I'm looking. There must be some documentation somewhere, and maybe even some additional methods/properties. From what I understand in the code I found: The .query() appears to be a method representing .query_create() whereas the .filter_expression = appears to be a .dot variable, much like "query.filter =" when scripting queries the "old school way." (setting up the query dot variables first)

      PS: Although you can set similar (same thing?) form filter and order properties using the old "form properties" window, these form "properties" don't seem to show up in the newer "side panel properties" list. (I keep thinking these things I'm looking for might represent/be the same <form> properties/methods that were somehow forgotten/not added to the newer "side panel properties?"
      Last edited by SNusa; 02-19-2017, 02:59 PM.
      Robert T. ~ "I enjoy manipulating data... just not my data."
      It's all about the "framework." (I suppose an "a5-induced" hard drive crash is now in order?)
      RELOADED: My current posting activity here merely represents a "Momentary Lapse Of Reason."

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        #4
        Re: Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

        Found something else pertinent/demonstrating usage here:
        http://documentation.alphasoftware.c...her%20Form.xml

        Note: Can also set order at same time.... <object>.order_expression =
        ex: 'Set the order expression to "amount" this way: parentform:tables:<table>.order_expression = "amount"
        Last edited by SNusa; 02-20-2017, 09:45 PM.
        Robert T. ~ "I enjoy manipulating data... just not my data."
        It's all about the "framework." (I suppose an "a5-induced" hard drive crash is now in order?)
        RELOADED: My current posting activity here merely represents a "Momentary Lapse Of Reason."

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          #5
          Re: Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

          You can search the documentation, full text search, for :tables: .
          There can be only one.

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            Re: Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

            Originally posted by Stan Mathews View Post
            You can search the documentation, full text search, for :tables: .
            I must be doing something wrong with full text search..... What would you search on to find something like this: <table>.order_expression = "amount"? ~ Please help.... I'm pulling my hair out in frustration lol.

            Also, the other day I somehow stumbled on a page showing different options specific to the browse object using <browse>.command("current_to_top") Thought I had bookmarked it but I can't find that page either. Best I can come up with is this, but it's not giving me any of the other commands that can be sent to the browse object (saw the page once): http://documentation.alphasoftware.c...D%20Method.xml
            I was able to find some (most actually) of this stuff in the offline documentation viewer, but I just can't seem to effectively query what I'm looking for in the new online help. I like the way the new online help organized when researching subjects/topics in general. ~ But when I'm looking for something specific, I tend to get lost.
            Last edited by SNusa; 02-20-2017, 10:57 PM.
            Robert T. ~ "I enjoy manipulating data... just not my data."
            It's all about the "framework." (I suppose an "a5-induced" hard drive crash is now in order?)
            RELOADED: My current posting activity here merely represents a "Momentary Lapse Of Reason."

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              #7
              Re: Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

              I was speaking of full text search in the local documentation. I find searching the online documentation a challenge given Page Not Found responses to links in the local.

              http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/New+Browse+Method+V10.5 - this was where the <browse>.command("current_to_top") once resided, and there is a link on https://www.alphasoftware.com/docume.../Index/Release Notes V10.5.html but it is broken.

              I would never search using <table>. I always search beginning with the period before the method or property. Searching on <table> precludes one finding the correct usage :formname.topparent:tables:tablename.order_expression as C. https://www.alphasoftware.com/docume...Properties.xml <table> is a shorthand or designator to indicate that a table pointer has been obtained, usually via table_pointer = table.open("tablename") which is not the syntax here.

              Note: I must alter what I stated above. I would never search using <table> unless I knew that was the way the entry would be found in the documentation. I try to begin at the most general level possible and choose from the results. In your endeavor you are looking for entries using the :tables: addressing syntax so that's where I would start, locally. When trying to search for :tables: online you will get irrelevant results. It appears the search engine there consumes the colons.
              Last edited by Stan Mathews; 02-22-2017, 09:03 AM.
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                #8
                Re: Can't seem to find something simple in documentation....

                Thank you Stan, that should get me going.....
                Robert T. ~ "I enjoy manipulating data... just not my data."
                It's all about the "framework." (I suppose an "a5-induced" hard drive crash is now in order?)
                RELOADED: My current posting activity here merely represents a "Momentary Lapse Of Reason."

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