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  • armasoft
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    I don't use the web server, but can you not run more than one app on the same server? https://documentation.alphasoftware....subfolders.xml

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  • dchiass
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    one facility, one server, one application (using v12). they wanted to know what it would cost them to run our application on the internet All the programming is done but to work on the internet a client needs the v12 web server. Trying to pindown a cost for them but there are so many variations, not too sure. Help me sort out what they mite have to buy.

    If the web server is now US$5000 per year, it is a non starter and they will stay with the Desktop app.

    BIG thanks.

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  • DaveM
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    I have v7 apps that run fine using v12 runtime, but I stay away from using advanced features in the app. Makes life much more simple on upgrades.
    W.O.D. is a nightmare on upgrades or downgrades most of the time.

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  • dchiass
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    thanks...not sure what you mean by "security is not ......" mite be better to send me a personal email.

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  • madtowng
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    v10 will usually run on v12, but your v12 apps might be too advanced for v10.
    I'm hoping that security is not a concern with the v10 app, or in the alternative,
    it is not exposed to the internet.

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  • dchiass
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    as the man said "no cigars"....looks like they will have to stick with v10 desktop & its internet component. Thats 2 bad as our new v12 desktop has a lot of new features but like I said they are not willing to buy another web server application (v12).

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  • Peter.Greulich
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    A v12 web app won't run in a v10 web server. Not likely.
    But your v12 desktop app will likely run in the v10 RT.

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  • dchiass
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
    I'm not sure that it matters much if they are using the Desktop only. Alpha has made very few changes to the desktop from v10 to v12. I think (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), the few changes they have made mostly relate to xdialog. Beyond that, not much. Even then, you would have to be using the xdialog changes in your v12 edition to screw up there v10 RT. But just try running your v12 app in v10 RT and you will find out pretty quickly if there are any issues.
    You might have missed this "Our older build of desktop uses v10 runtime & web application web v10. This what a client has now." So they use the desktop & web internet version both in v10.....

    their problem is that they want to upgrade to our v12 DESKTOP but aren't willing to spend thousands buying the v12 web server app. so the a5webroot they have now have was made in v10.....would the a5webroot we make in the development v12 run on the old v10 web server app they now have? They have told us they will NOT buy the v12 web server app.

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  • Peter.Greulich
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    I'm not sure that it matters much if they are using the Desktop only. Alpha has made very few changes to the desktop from v10 to v12. I think (someone can correct me if I'm wrong), the few changes they have made mostly relate to xdialog. Beyond that, not much. Even then, you would have to be using the xdialog changes in your v12 edition to screw up there v10 RT. But just try running your v12 app in v10 RT and you will find out pretty quickly if there are any issues.

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  • dchiass
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    I hope this clears the MUD.

    Current build of our application DESKTOP uses Alpha 12 runtime. It does have an internet component using "our" Web server v12

    Our older build of desktop uses v10 runtime & web application web v10. This what a client has now.

    BUT they want to UPGRADE to our latest desktop which uses v12 runtime. More features & other goodies but they do not want to pay the high price to purchase another v12 Web Server.

    Thinking of what I am asking, it seems now obvious that he can not use our MOST current build DESKOP v12 with the older v10 web server. Am I right?

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  • user10
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    Re: Desktop app using v12 runtime

    Need a bit more information your post is as clear as mud!
    Are you looking at migrating a desktop app to a web app?

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  • dchiass
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    Desktop app using v12 runtime

    Will our application run on the v10 Web Application Server or must we attempt to get our client to purchase the new v12? Based on current price Alpha now charges, I am 100% sure they will stay with the v10 Web Server. This means we will not be able to upgrade their desktop version to v12....

    Thanks.
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