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    #91
    Re: new ..calendar component in v11

    got a little of this from the website. Uses css and looks very programmable

    Code:
    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
    	"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
    <head>
    	<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
    	<title></title>
    </head>
    	<script src="codebase/dhtmlxscheduler.js" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script>
    	<script src="codebase/ext/dhtmlxscheduler_recurring.js" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script>
    	<link rel="stylesheet" href="codebase/dhtmlxscheduler_glossy.css" type="text/css" title="no title" charset="utf-8">
    	<link rel="stylesheet" href="codebase/ext/dhtmlxscheduler_recurring.css" type="text/css" title="no title" charset="utf-8">
    	
     
    	
    <style type="text/css" media="screen"> 
    	html, body{
    		margin:0px;
    		padding:0px;
    		height:100%;
    		overflow:hidden;
    	}	
    </style>
     
     
    <script type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"> 
    	function init() {
    		window.resizeTo(950,700)
    		modSchedHeight();
    		scheduler.config.xml_date="%Y-%m-%d %H:%i";
    		scheduler.config.details_on_create=true;
    		scheduler.config.details_on_dblclick=true;
    		scheduler.init('scheduler_here',new Date(2009,6,1),"month");
    		scheduler.load("xml/recurring.xml");
    		
    	}
    </script>
     
    <body onload="init();" onresize="modSchedHeight()">
    	
    	
    	
    	
    	
    	<!-- info block 
    		href-prev
    		href-next
    		title
    		desc-short
    		desc-long
    -->
    	<script>
    		function modSchedHeight(){
    			var headHeight = 100;
    			var sch = document.getElementById("scheduler_here");
    			sch.style.height = (parseInt(document.body.offsetHeight)-headHeight)+"px";
    			var contbox = document.getElementById("contbox");
    			contbox.style.width = (parseInt(document.body.offsetWidth)-300)+"px";
    		}
    	</script>
    	<div style="height:95px;background-color:#3D3D3D;border-bottom:5px solid #828282;">
    		<a style="float:left;margin:22px 0 0 25px;" href="sample_basic.shtml"><img src="images/btn-left.gif"></a>
    		<div id="contbox" style="float:left;color:white;margin:22px 75px 0 75px; overflow:hidden;font: 17px Arial,Helvetica;color:white">
    			<div style="border-right:5px solid #2D8EB6;color:#2D8EB6;width:175px;height:50px;float:left;text-align:right;padding-right:25px;">Recurring Events</div>
    			<div style="font-size:12px;padding-left:225px;width:400px;">View regularly occuring events which are repeated daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly.</div>
    			<div style="font-size:12px;padding-left:225px;margin-top:5px;color:#949292;width:400px;">You can add/edit/delete events, but changes will be available only until the demo is reloaded.</div>
    		</div>
    		<a style="float:right;margin:22px 25px 0 0;" href="sample_units.shtml"><img src="images/btn-right.gif"></a>
    	</div>
    	<!-- end. info block -->
    	<div id="scheduler_here" class="dhx_cal_container" style='width:100%; height:100%;'>
    		<div class="dhx_cal_navline">
    			<div class="dhx_cal_prev_button">&nbsp;</div>
    			<div class="dhx_cal_next_button">&nbsp;</div>
    			<div class="dhx_cal_today_button"></div>
    			<div class="dhx_cal_date"></div>
    			<div class="dhx_cal_tab" name="day_tab" style="right:204px;"></div>
    			<div class="dhx_cal_tab" name="week_tab" style="right:140px;"></div>
    			<div class="dhx_cal_tab" name="month_tab" style="right:76px;"></div>
    		</div>
    		<div class="dhx_cal_header">
    		</div>
    		<div class="dhx_cal_data">
    		</div>		
    	</div>
    </body>
    Of course, I am absolutely no expert
    Dave Mason
    [email protected]
    Skype is dave.mason46

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      #92
      Re: new ..calendar component in v11

      Wasn't a challenge just a question
      Chad Brown

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        #93
        Re: new ..calendar component in v11

        vs ( got this from http://web2cal.com/developer-guide/s...-install-guide )
        Code:
        <link type="text/css" rel="stylesheet" href="/css/web2cal.css">
        <script src="/js/jquery-1.2.3.min.js"></script> (Necessary library for web2cal)
        <script src="/js/web2cal-min.js"></script> (Main Library to provide calendar functions.)
        <script src="/js/web2cal.default.template.js"></script> (Contains default templates)
        <script src="/js/web2cal.support.js"></script> (Contains Language, and Support functions)  
        <div id="calendarContainer"></div>
        
        var ical = new Web2Cal( 'calendarContainer', { 
        loadEvents:loadCalendarEvents 
        });
        There is a lot more research that must have gone in before integrating the right Calendar. The event model, performance, extensibility, features and so on... Ask Alpha for the reasons or Just negotiate for the best price for now.


        Originally posted by DaveM View Post
        got a little of this from the website. Uses css and looks very programmable

        Code:
        <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
        	"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
        <head>
        	<meta http-equiv="Content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
        	<title></title>
        </head>
        	<script src="codebase/dhtmlxscheduler.js" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script>
        	<script src="codebase/ext/dhtmlxscheduler_recurring.js" type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"></script>
        	<link rel="stylesheet" href="codebase/dhtmlxscheduler_glossy.css" type="text/css" title="no title" charset="utf-8">
        	<link rel="stylesheet" href="codebase/ext/dhtmlxscheduler_recurring.css" type="text/css" title="no title" charset="utf-8">
        	
         
        	
        <style type="text/css" media="screen"> 
        	html, body{
        		margin:0px;
        		padding:0px;
        		height:100%;
        		overflow:hidden;
        	}	
        </style>
         
         
        <script type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8"> 
        	function init() {
        		window.resizeTo(950,700)
        		modSchedHeight();
        		scheduler.config.xml_date="%Y-%m-%d %H:%i";
        		scheduler.config.details_on_create=true;
        		scheduler.config.details_on_dblclick=true;
        		scheduler.init('scheduler_here',new Date(2009,6,1),"month");
        		scheduler.load("xml/recurring.xml");
        		
        	}
        </script>
         
        <body onload="init();" onresize="modSchedHeight()">
        	
        	
        	
        	
        	
        	<!-- info block 
        		href-prev
        		href-next
        		title
        		desc-short
        		desc-long
        -->
        	<script>
        		function modSchedHeight(){
        			var headHeight = 100;
        			var sch = document.getElementById("scheduler_here");
        			sch.style.height = (parseInt(document.body.offsetHeight)-headHeight)+"px";
        			var contbox = document.getElementById("contbox");
        			contbox.style.width = (parseInt(document.body.offsetWidth)-300)+"px";
        		}
        	</script>
        	<div style="height:95px;background-color:#3D3D3D;border-bottom:5px solid #828282;">
        		<a style="float:left;margin:22px 0 0 25px;" href="sample_basic.shtml"><img src="images/btn-left.gif"></a>
        		<div id="contbox" style="float:left;color:white;margin:22px 75px 0 75px; overflow:hidden;font: 17px Arial,Helvetica;color:white">
        			<div style="border-right:5px solid #2D8EB6;color:#2D8EB6;width:175px;height:50px;float:left;text-align:right;padding-right:25px;">Recurring Events</div>
        			<div style="font-size:12px;padding-left:225px;width:400px;">View regularly occuring events which are repeated daily, weekly, monthly, or yearly.</div>
        			<div style="font-size:12px;padding-left:225px;margin-top:5px;color:#949292;width:400px;">You can add/edit/delete events, but changes will be available only until the demo is reloaded.</div>
        		</div>
        		<a style="float:right;margin:22px 25px 0 0;" href="sample_units.shtml"><img src="images/btn-right.gif"></a>
        	</div>
        	<!-- end. info block -->
        	<div id="scheduler_here" class="dhx_cal_container" style='width:100%; height:100%;'>
        		<div class="dhx_cal_navline">
        			<div class="dhx_cal_prev_button">*</div>
        			<div class="dhx_cal_next_button">*</div>
        			<div class="dhx_cal_today_button"></div>
        			<div class="dhx_cal_date"></div>
        			<div class="dhx_cal_tab" name="day_tab" style="right:204px;"></div>
        			<div class="dhx_cal_tab" name="week_tab" style="right:140px;"></div>
        			<div class="dhx_cal_tab" name="month_tab" style="right:76px;"></div>
        		</div>
        		<div class="dhx_cal_header">
        		</div>
        		<div class="dhx_cal_data">
        		</div>		
        	</div>
        </body>
        Of course, I am absolutely no expert

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          #94
          Re: new ..calendar component in v11

          Thanks Chad!


          another way to lookn found:
          http://www.roseindia.net/opensource/...calendar.shtml
          Last edited by DaveM; 10-29-2011, 11:40 PM.
          Dave Mason
          [email protected]
          Skype is dave.mason46

          Comment


            #95
            Re: new ..calendar component in v11

            My final thoughts:

            On the pricing, advertising etc:

            1 - My personal opinion remains that the big problem isn't that there's a third party licensing fee, but that it's per domain and/or that the per domain is outrageously expensive. And yes - I do mean "outrageous". See the math below.

            2 - If sales people failed to mention that the 3rd party licensing is per domain, my money is on it being because they didn't know. I'm 99% sure my salesman did tell me there would be a 3rd party licensing fee. I've talked to him enough over the time I've owned A5 that I'd be very very very surprised if he held back on the other part for any reason other than because he literally didn't know there was another part.

            3 - From that, I then start to wonder if the folks at A5 who made the deal knew that part ahead of time! If you think about it, who would even think to ask? We didn't. It's just so not the typical model, that it wouldn't even come up. It's entirely possible that they were just as blindsided as we were and just can't quite come out and say it.

            On the pricing itself:

            So why do I say "outrageously expensive"? Well, do the math on rolling out maybe 30 web sites, not an unreasonable thought for a professional developer.

            Alpha Five - $350 for the developer plus $500 for the calendar component = $850.

            Web2Cal - the best price I heard from them was that there would be a price break after the first five. So - best price for the first five is $450 x 5 = $2250. Then they told me something in the neighborhood of $300 for the next group up to 15. $350 x 10 = $3500. Then I did hear $150 per after that, so we'll use that. 15 x $150 = $2250. That's $8,000!!!!!!!

            So my math is that for 30 web sites that have calendars, the entire Alpha Five hard cost is somewhere between $850 and $1500 (for the subscription) - and then the hard cost for the calendar component would be $8,000. Hmmm - $1500 for A5, the whole thing - and then $8k for just the third party licensing of the calendar. The calendar costs 5 times the main thing! That just doesn't calculate out for me.

            Now I've left out the WAS. I understand they're planning on IIS in it's place. But, even if we count that, we still have the relative costs way out of whack. My A5 sales dude sent me this schedule for multiple WAS:

            Alpha Five V11 App Server: $399.00

            Buy 2: $699.00 ($349.50 each)
            Buy 5: $1299.00 ($259.80 each)
            Buy 10: $2299.00 ($229 each)
            Buy 11-20: $199 each
            Buy 21 + : $179.00 each

            So at 30 web sites, the average cost of the WAS would be $179 (for now, zero soon!) and the average cost of the 3rd party licensing for the calendar component (just the third party licensing - don't forget that we've already paid for all the work Selwyn & his team did to integrate the calendar on the A5 end) - is still averaging $266. Nope, that just doesn't calculate out for me still. And - the developer still has to do work on further integrating the calendar into that particular app. At those prices I'd have to have it be an add-on to my clients of somewhere between $500 and $750. If I have to have it be an add-on, now I have to spend my time to remove it for those who don't want it. It's lose-lose.

            So - now that I've had time to really think about it and crunch the numbers - I will not even be offering the calendar to my builders. I'll wait until either:

            1 - One of the more skilled developers truly needs a calendar, does the math, comes to the same conclusion and either develops their own or comes up with the integration for one of the many other third party calendars. I'd rather pay "one of us" even a whole lot of money once than continue on the Web2Cal bandwagon. (At this point I did buy one license, and I regret it.)

            or

            2 - Web2Cal "gets it" that their product, no matter how cool a calendar, really and truly is still just one part of the larger whole, and that rational economics demands that it's piece of the pie be proportional to the value it adds relative to the rest. It simply does not and never will be worth many times what Selwyn & friend's work is worth.

            I did hear that Web2Cal might be coming up with a bulk licensing thing - say 5 packs etc. Well, having paid up front for a "calendar component" from Alpha, then paying up front for the third party licensing, and then paying up front via time for putting it all into an application - unless that per-domain fee is more like $50-$75, maybe even as high as $150 if it's the best darned calendar ever for all time - I'm out. Anything more, right from the 2nd license, and the math isn't there and never will be.
            Wendy Welton
            Architect
            past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

            http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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              #96
              Re: new ..calendar component in v11

              Originally posted by WendyWelton View Post
              My final thoughts:
              So at 30 web sites, the average cost of the WAS would be $179 (for now, zero soon!)
              .
              Zero soon? Yes maybe for WAS but I think IIS Integration will cost much more than WAS today. I think they have invest lot of resources for IIS integration . Not a little job.
              We could also think that if a calender component has a 500 dollars price it is sure that IIS integration will be much more.

              Comment


                #97
                Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                Thanks, Wendy, for all the good and valuable research info! It helps all of us in making our decisions.
                Carol King
                Developer of Custom Homebuilders' Solutions (CHS)
                http://www.CHSBuilderSoftware.com

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                  #98
                  Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                  I've been corrected via private email. Nobody ever said an IIS extension would be free! However, even assuming a similar cost to the WAS, I stand by my assertion that significant movement is needed in the price of the Web2Cal third party licensing if it's per domain.
                  Wendy Welton
                  Architect
                  past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                  http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

                  Comment


                    #99
                    Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                    Originally posted by kkfin View Post
                    Zero soon? Yes maybe for WAS but I think IIS Integration will cost much more than WAS today. I think they have invest lot of resources for IIS integration . Not a little job.
                    We could also think that if a calender component has a 500 dollars price it is sure that IIS integration will be much more.
                    With a product like Web2Cal or IIS integration. It almost doesn't matter how big or small a job it is to produce the original. In the real world of economics in the year 2011, it matters what the market will bear. It even doesn't matter what each developer thinks it's worth. It matters if the price can be folded into a price the developer's customers will pay. The market will either support it or it won't.

                    All my architect friends stoke my ego with compliments on my plans and what they're worth - saying I should charge twice what I charge. It's tempting to drink that koolaid. But, I've done the math on what amount can be taken from the cost of a new home to pay for the plans. The plumber might also do stellar work, and the electrician and the framer etc - and each of our pieces can only cost a portion of the whole that's appropriate. So I charge what I know to be the right price, even though some months it hurts in this economy, because I know it will work out well for me as the economy slowly improves. My builders know they can trust me to be fair and to "get it", and that's why they keep coming back. I'm not suggesting Web2Cal or Alpha or anybody else do anything that I'm not doing myself. And, I'm not saying even that they have to adopt this because my argument is correct. I'm saying only that I will not buy more licenses unless the price fits a model my customers will pay. It's that simple. I'm also not going to continue to beat the horse. I've looked the horse over and made my decision.
                    Wendy Welton
                    Architect
                    past & future Alphaholic - deliberately falling off the wagon!

                    http://www.artformhomeplans.com/

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                      Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                      In the demp, I noticed the small month control / day selector to the left of the calendar, does not indicate the dates with events (bolded / or colored) as most calendar / schedulers do? Is this an option that was not selected?
                      _______________________________
                      Steven McLean
                      i3 Home Inspections
                      [email protected]

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                        Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                        demo...
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                        Steven McLean
                        i3 Home Inspections
                        [email protected]

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                          Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                          Another question regarding the 3rd party licensing; if we delelop an application with the calendar / scheduler as a major component we will need an license for each WEB Server. If Web2Cal closes up shop tomorrow, what happens? Are there any assurances we would have access to licenses?
                          _______________________________
                          Steven McLean
                          i3 Home Inspections
                          [email protected]

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                            Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                            Apparently that poor horse will not Rest in peace. Back for another round of beatings.....
                            Bill Griffin
                            Parkell, Inc

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                              Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                              C'mon Bill - it's a _Zombie_ horse... It's GOTTA come back for more... (evil grin)

                              Steven - I would pose that question to the Web2Cal gang. Whether I'm a fan of their licensing policy or not - they've been very good about communicating on such matters. Try shooting an email to them.

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                                Re: new ..calendar component in v11

                                I haven't talked to them myself, but I could see somebody suggesting a developer license, where there is some upfront fee, then a much smaller fee per domain, say $50 for each domain that developer works on.

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