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    TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

    Lots of work into this thing and this afternoon it started denying access to everything .. all pages and all components .. have completely blown everything away and started over. Alpha retains settings somewhere that I haven't found yet. Creating new components .. starting over .. and when I create a tabbed ui and save it as 'home_tabbedui" it creates an a5w page called tabbedui_home_tabbedui.
    Last edited by betty; November 16, 2011, 07:08 PM.
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    Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

    Betty,

    When you save TUI component for example under name MyHome there will be automatically created accompanying A5W page in the form "TabbedUI_MyHome". This is by design, because A5W page can contain only one such component, so it created for you automatically.

    If you want that your A5W page will named same as your TUI component, then you have to change TUI property A5W Page name in section Tabbed UI Properties | Container A5W Page. For example if you want that your TUI component and A5W page will have the same name (e.g. MyHome) then you input in A5W Page name property value MyHome and when you will save your component under MyHome A5W page will have the same name.
    If you save your component under some other name then it will be saved under that name, but A5W will be still saved under the name you specified.

    That is regarding naming. If you have some other problem here be more specific.

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      #3
      Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

      The default page name for tabbed UI is 'home'. Initially, when this component was created (more than a month ago), the page that was automatically created by the Tabbed UI process was called home.a5w. I added a component to the tabbed ui this afternoon and it created a new page called 'tabbedui_home_tabbedui.a5w". So I now have two; home.a5w and tabbedui_home_tabbedui.a5w.

      This was the first clue that something is broken. I haven't figured out what yet.

      I also have (had) error messages 403 - Access forbidden. And .. when published and opened in the browser .. ALL of the components display an error that the connection cannot be found (but the connection works fine in alpha).

      I have about given up. I have blown away everything (twice). And .. I uninstalled and reinstalled Alpha. Still have the issue .. like it retained something from the old setup. So now I am uninstalling again with REVO and will clean the registry manually to remove everything Alpha before reinstall again.

      Lots of work that should not have to be.

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        #4
        Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

        Send the issue it to Alpha to advise or for a fix as to what happened. V11 is not in Beat any more. Also where are you back ups? - if you don't have then Alpha will provide you all of the prior edits - right click the component for a list to select from.
        Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
        Albert Einstein, (attributed)
        US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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          #5
          Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

          Why you got two a5w pages explain my previous post. Look like in previous version you set that property and in new version you didn't.

          So if you want to have back Home.a5w and things like you had before try this:
          1. Open TUI and set A5W Page name to "Home". This will force that your a5w page will be named "Home". If this is already set try to change to "<Default> " what is default settings. Maybe that will reset somehow your code inside. Save then, close TUI, open again and set back to "Home".
          2. Save TUI under the name you have before or want to have.
          Regarding "tabbedui_home_tabbedui.a5w" page you have now: This is actually duplicate because of that mixing situation. I think you can delete it, because you are using "Home.a5w".


          Now with 403 - Access forbidden error. This probably mean that you change the name of the component (or delete it) so you have to set security again for this new name component.
          1. Select Web Project Control Panel and then click button Web Security.
          2. In dialog select Page Security.
          3. Right click on your Home.a5w page and set appropriate settings, like you had before for your old Home.a5w page.
          4. Now you have to publish that new security settings by selecting Publish button at the bottom of Page and Folder Permission dialog. Be careful so you wont also check Data Tables for User and Groups, because this will set all your users to default.
          You wrote that you reinstall Alpha. I think Alpha doesn't have anything with that. You created new page and that new page doesn't had proper security settings.

          I would also verify Web Security Configuration in Web Security dialog if you would still have security problems. Check your redirect page after login (property Redirect page after login).

          If this won't solve your problems you would have to tell exactly what you did from the beginning when problems actually arises and why you did it.

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            #6
            Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

            Guys .. I am so far beyond "What I did and WHY I did it" that I don't know if I can really answer that anymore. Not one to sit and wait for an answer. Yes; auto backup is turned on .. and in addition to that .. I make my own backups periodically throughout the day .. and also retain a log of what I did .. anal with documentation .. but I was hard at it and pushing as much stuff forward as I could .. so maybe I missed something or got excited and broke something else.

            At the time this snafu occurred (or appeared to occur), I had created a new grid (for a lookup table) and put that new grid on the tabbed ui so that I could edit those options. When I saved the tabbed ui I got this issue. But .. before I modified the tabbedui, I made a copy of the home page as _home. (An additional backup measure) Maybe that did it.

            Looking back through my notes .. I suspect the thing that caused the 403 Forbidden message .. is that I changed the connection name to "conn" .. following recommendations that I found on IADN (which made sense to me). Then I changed all the connections in all of the grids and everywhere that it was used .. using "Search in all web project files" to find all those occurrences. If I do a search now .. there is nothing left of the old connection .. and the new 'conn' connection works fine in alpha but not in the browser - but only when a component is involved. All of the a5w pages or html pages that do not contain a component are fine.

            So then I emptied the webroot and took my backups .. and one file at a time .. starting to put things back. Starting with the login.a5wcmp, then login.a5w, then logout.a5w .. etc... and all of that .. and it was still broken .. so I figured it had to be something in the registry. And I did - at some point in time - change all the security settings to always allow.

            So I used REVO to uninstall alpha and remove all remnants.

            This little bitty application has been worse than an Progress ERP system I have been working on for 2 years. (In the real world, I am a Progress DBA and have been building bigger things than this for 30+ years .. but man am I feeling stupid)

            The thing that alpha lacks .. imo .. is documentation. The videos are good (you do great videos btw Pete!) but random. Or maybe I am random.

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              #7
              Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

              If you made a copy of your "Home" page outside Alpha, then this shouldn't be a problem (unless you didn't make changes on that new copy after that - copy has probably new ID). But if you make copy inside Alpha5 then maybe some references changes onto this new copy (and I think each grid has unique ID).

              Regarding that you said that you completely empty the root that mean that you also have to publish Data Tables for User and Groups. Did you do that?

              Try to create one small web app for test and use on that new project all settings (connection, security...) you think you have on old one (open two instances and check side by side).
              If this new one work fine, then you didn't re-publish all necessary things for the old one. If this doesn't work then you have problem not related to your current app.

              I also think if you restore (whole root) complete backup of still working app, then this should work if you login over browser.

              So you have to roll back to the point where all still worked in old app (and then start changing things again) OR create new sample app where all work and then sync this two versions.

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                #8
                Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

                And that's what I did .. created a little web app with the basic components and then copied those into my other app overwriting the components that were there .. and things are working again.

                So here's a question .. I had pagetop and pagebottom included in the home page (which is why I was making a copy of it before modifying the tabbed ui - and yes - I did that inside alpha .. although I had done it 100 times before without issue). Company name on the pagebottom - so that's no big deal. But on the pagetop, I had a navbar and the username. Put them in a pagetop because I could not get them to work in the tabbed ui header.

                Is there a way to do that in the tabbed ui? To have a navbar or pageheader included in the header section? Or can I put a field in the pane header of the tabbed ui?

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                  #9
                  Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

                  In TUI you have only properties for Header text and Footer text. So I don't know how you can include pagetop and pagebottom here. You can write your own HTML Header and Footer.

                  About that Q I'm currently too short because I'm new to Alpha5 and I'm still in learn mode. I generally understand logic but I don't know all details yet. At the moment I see better forest then trees inside.

                  If you want you can use classic menu navigation by using Navigation System component. I used till now for navigation only that two components but on separate home pages.

                  More about that you can read in book Alpha Five Web Applications Made Easy for version 10.5 by Susan Hussey Bush. I think her books are urgent if you want to understand Alpha Five and you study on your own.

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                    #10
                    Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

                    I will check that out .. I have a copy of Susan's book. Although I have had alpha since late 2009 and have built some desktop apps, I am also a beginner - just getting started in the web apps thing. Thank you so much for your help!

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                      #11
                      Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

                      I decided that I will go first through all released videos for V10 and V11 (more then 400) to see what is available and then start working on some real things. It's could be very hard (and danger too) to use an airplane if you don't know how to use all the buttons in the cockpit.

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                        #12
                        Re: TabbedUI_Home_TabbedUI

                        Very dangerous running an airplane without knowing all the buttons in the cockpit.

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