Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

[satyanarayana]

Hi,
Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?
Is there any alternative way to add users to websecurity users.


Actully task is while registering only I have to add registered persons to websecurity users.How can I do it?

[madtowng]

Re: Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

Hi Satyanarayana,

Pictures say it much better than I can.
Alpha has made the help button far more useful than it used to be.
The wiki search assistant and the video finder will lead you to answers
for many questions.




http://news.alphasoftware.com/v11pre...urityFramework

[billamidon]

Re: Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

Is there an over view somewhere? What if we just want to use security, but not make it a big deal. Just have a login screen with or without a password. No screens necessary to maintain users and passwords (that can come in the future). Just a simple "how does it work" summary.

1. What to do to enable security, does it create a table? Where is this table what is the table name? Does this single table provide everything needed for security? Can this table be maintained by the developer without building a UI?

2. What happens when security is enabled on the server? What happens if security in the app is included but it is not turned on in the server?

3. In a new developing app I want the appearance of security without the problems associated with it. Ideally I would turn it on so I could have a login screen, but not even use the security system until the very end of the project.

4. Can I turn the security on, have Alpha build the necessary table(s), then disable it so the login screens accepts a login name but nothing is verified?

5. Does Alpha create login screens for me? Do I have to do it? Is there some "canned" "One-click" to build option?



I think, for me, I would like the appearance of security without a "fort knoxs" system. Just something simple to show it is included. It can be enhanced down the line.

[madtowng]

Re: Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

1. What to do to enable security, does it create a table? Where is this table what is the table name? Does this single table provide everything needed for security? Can this table be maintained by the developer without building a UI?

Web security creates 4 tables that includes everything for basic security.

2. What happens when security is enabled on the server? What happens if security in the app is included but it is not turned on in the server?

Web security performs as it was directed, not to be confused with the way you want it to perform.
If you have not turned web security on, only the security you provided will be used.

3. In a new developing app I want the appearance of security without the problems associated with it. Ideally I would turn it on so I could have a login screen, but not even use the security system until the very end of the project.

4. Can I turn the security on, have Alpha build the necessary table(s), then disable it so the login screens accepts a login name but nothing is verified?

5. Does Alpha create login screens for me? Do I have to do it? Is there some "canned" "One-click" to build option?

3,4, and 5 seem to be pretty much the same question.

You can create a page with a textbox for username, a textbox for password, and a button to click on to give the appearance of logging in. Set the action for the button to go to the next page.

[billamidon]

Re: Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

Thanks Gregg, that is a good start, I appreciate your time.

Follow up:
1. When I turn on and initiate security in an application are the tables created as dbf of sql? What determines this?

2. I realize I can create a "fake" login screen. What I was wondering is can Alpha create a login screen for me, so it is automatically tied to the correct tables, then can I just tell it to "allow any" login. Or alternatively I can manually go in and add users with blank passwords to the table, to get started.

3. The end game goal here is to have everything in place so I can learn it as I go along building the rest of the app. What I *do not* want is for this to interfere with my development and testing. I would like to have the security tables in place, so as I do my development I can grab and display the current user, display on the screen etc. Just kind of learn the system variable stuff along the way. Then by the time I get the app developed I should have gained enough knowledge to enable the security system.

4. I don't want to spend a bunch of time learning the security stuff at the beginning, but I want it in place so I can program against it for the end BUT I don't want to miss something while creating 100's of screens.

[madtowng]

Re: Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

Follow up:
1. When I turn on and initiate security in an application are the tables created as dbf of sql? What determines this?

By default, Alpha creates .dbf files that it places in the web project folder. If you want to use sql tables, it will take a little
more effort on your part.

2. I realize I can create a "fake" login screen. What I was wondering is can Alpha create a login screen for me, so it is automatically tied to the correct tables, then can I just tell it to "allow any" login. Or alternatively I can manually go in and add users with blank passwords to the table, to get started.

Alpha provides a great "starter dialog". It takes a little configuring on your part.

3. The end game goal here is to have everything in place so I can learn it as I go along building the rest of the app. What I *do not* want is for this to interfere with my development and testing. I would like to have the security tables in place, so as I do my development I can grab and display the current user, display on the screen etc. Just kind of learn the system variable stuff along the way. Then by the time I get the app developed I should have gained enough knowledge to enable the security system.

4. I don't want to spend a bunch of time learning the security stuff at the beginning, but I want it in place so I can program against it for the end BUT I don't want to miss something while creating 100's of screens.

Steve Wood sells a marvelous web template , that handles security and other aspects of the project, letting you concentrate on the "meat" of your project. For more information about Web Template, visit http://www.alphatogo.com/products.a5w . It still takes some configuration effort on your part, but there are several people here that use the product for website.

If your goal is to have security, but do not intend to offer self registration, you do have the option of using the web security GUI to add/remove/edit users as well as assign permissions to pages and components.

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

Hi Bill,

Here's my 2-cents:

1. When I turn on and initiate security in an application are the tables created as dbf of sql? What determines this?

dbf, not sql. Even if you use sql you will still use the dbf security. There is a way to port security over to sql, but you don't want to go there because it's a complex little process.

2. I realize I can create a "fake" login screen. What I was wondering is can Alpha create a login screen for me, so it is automatically tied to the correct tables, then can I just tell it to "allow any" login.

In web security there is an icon that creates a login component for you (it's a dialog). But you need to insert that dialog onto an a5w page. Usually you would call that page index.a5w.

Or alternatively I can manually go in and add users with blank passwords to the table, to get started.


If you want you can just create one user. Call it whatever you want. Not sure if you can have "blank" passwords. You will have to set the password validation to 0 - it might work?

3. The end game goal here is to have everything in place so I can learn it as I go along building the rest of the app. What I *do not* want is for this to interfere with my development and testing. I would like to have the security tables in place, so as I do my development I can grab and display the current user, display on the screen etc. Just kind of learn the system variable stuff along the way. Then by the time I get the app developed I should have gained enough knowledge to enable the security system.

Okay

4. I don't want to spend a bunch of time learning the security stuff at the beginning, but I want it in place so I can program against it for the end BUT I don't want to miss something while creating 100's of screens.

Okay

[billamidon]

Re: Can any one tell how to add users to websecurity in server?

Thank you Peter and Gregg.