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Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

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    Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

    Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?
    for example:
    1. in a dialog when filterng a dropdown from the result of another dropdown (cascade) it has to upload the hole page instead of using ajax directly to update the second dropdown.
    2. In grid why didnt alpha incorporate ajax directly to validate records before submitng?
    Cheers
    Mauricio


    #2
    Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

    Alpha had to leave something for version 10... :D
    Al Buchholz
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    "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
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      #3
      Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

      Yeah that was my fiste guess. that and the fact that they wanted to get v9 before easter so they could spend all easter responding to price discussions on this forum lol.
      Cheers
      Mauricio

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        #4
        Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

        And if they hold to form from prior versions, the new version will most likely still see addtional value added to V9 patches. As a version matures patches are more fixes and small addtions.

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          #5
          Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

          Before critising I think we should be appreciative of the fact the Alpha have given us what Ajax libraries they have so far compiled in the timeframe of V9 rather than wait for V10.

          Those of you who have not developed in other products will not appreciate how lucky we are to have people like Richard and Selwyn pushing out options for those of us who like to sit on the bleeding edge.

          Would you still rather be waiting for V10, or perhaps delaying V9 by another 6-12 months?
          Mike Thomson

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            #6
            Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

            don't miss interpret our comments at least in my case I do appreciate Richard and Selwyn effort for giving an extraordinary product (and i think everybody else does too), It was just a kind of suggestion that might be better placed in the wish list forum
            Cheers
            Mauricio

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              #7
              Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

              Well said Mike, this is just so good.

              It's just amazing.

              Please eveyone, just think "BIG PICTURE".
              Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
              Albert Einstein, (attributed)
              US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)

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                #8
                Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                Check out Jerry's lengthy and informative post here: http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=72408

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                  #9
                  Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                  Mike & Pete are you suggesting I should stop giving ideas to Alpha so that they can improve their products?
                  If thats the case, Sorry but I wont stop guys.
                  Cheers
                  Mauricio

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                    #10
                    Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                    Originally posted by mmaisterrena View Post
                    Mike & Pete are you suggesting I should stop giving ideas to Alpha so that they can improve their products?
                    If thats the case, Sorry but I wont stop guys.
                    I hope nobody is suggesting that - as you can hopefully see from the link posted above, they are however working on this and have been for some time, they are just not ready to implement it in V9 yet :)

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                      #11
                      Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                      This post by Richard Rabins in computerworld.com referring to the advantages of Ajax explains a lot of things.

                      These capabilities -- which were almost added as an afterthought when we were developing the new version -- have turned out to be the single most popular feature of the new release ... so much so that we are working feverishly to roll more AJAX power into the product
                      http://www.computerworld.com/comment...9071039?page=2

                      Based on this post there should be good things to come in the near future
                      Cheers
                      Mauricio

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                        #12
                        Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                        Mauricio,

                        there's a big difference in a post that says "...why didn't you implement..."

                        and one that says "... why don't you implement..."

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                          #13
                          Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                          It is fair to say - that AJAX is one of the most important big trends in the industry today http://ajax.sys-con.com/read/482531.htm

                          It is also fair to say that we have been delighted with the interest in our approach to incorporating AJAX techniques into Alpha Fivev9 (standard and platinum) - which allows for web apps to be built in v9 that exhibit desktop like speed and control but still take significantly LESS time to develop than tools like PHP or Ruby or Dot Net.

                          As a result we are working VERY hard to do 3 things

                          1) build on the Javascript Libraries that ship with Alpha Five v9 to allow AJAX powered apps to built in v9 relatively quickly (the tree control example is an example of these libraries)

                          2) create "helpers" that can be called within the code editor to make it easier to build AJAX powered apps in v9

                          3) create complete genies or components that yield AJAX powered apps with no programming
                          Richard Rabins
                          Co Chairman
                          Alpha Software

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                            #14
                            Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                            Mauricio,

                            there's a big difference in a post that says "...why didn't you implement..."

                            and one that says "... why don't you implement..."
                            Ok Tom, now you try speaking Spanish :D (English is not my first language).

                            Richard thank you for that, I think that those features will give alpha a big competitive advantage.
                            Cheers
                            Mauricio

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                              #15
                              Re: Why alpha didnt integrate Ajax directly to dialogs and grids?

                              Originally posted by mmaisterrena View Post
                              (English is not my first language).
                              English may not be your first language, but you sure fooled me! Now if only I could speak Spanish with 10% of the fluency you have with English, I'd be in good shape!
                              Peter
                              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

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                              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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