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  • sendamail
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    Re: Open microsoft application from Alpha(hope it also wont add in my few un answered

    Originally posted by NicholasWieland View Post
    I have to comment ...... I am new to this whole Alpha thing.... and yes just like any product it has pluses and minuses. However dontquite and sendwhatever.. I am new to this product and with a little help from this forum and one of the guys herein "we" rolled out a pretty cool app in what I will say is record time and with very few problems. Why??? Cause I took the advice of those here, you are foolish (I really want to use other words-it's the Brooklyn in me) not to listen and I for one think you need to bury your attitude, or stop using the product!

    50+ and no patience for negativity.
    decided not to type anything that is not related to the post, but extremely sorry for one last time..

    God knows when this kind of educated morons will talk just about the problem & solution, if can not shut up their bloody mouths and take care of their own business..
    Last edited by sendamail; 08-19-2008, 10:56 AM.

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  • NoeticCC
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    Originally posted by DOntquIT View Post
    i already did the same thing few days ago as what u mentioned regarding office applications.i haven do bug report since i thought to have it as second step if i could nt find solution here.
    The bug report was in reference to the modules/subfolders, technically I see no reason why this shouldn't work, as it even lets you select components in a subfolder, it just doesn't copy the path when you select one.

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  • DOntquIT
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    i already did the same thing few days ago as what u mentioned regarding office applications.i haven do bug report since i thought to have it as second step if i could nt find solution here.

    Originally posted by Steve Wood View Post
    I think its great that you came back and tried to start the technical conversation again, and to get some answers to your question. I'm not sure anyone has a tested answer, I don't recall reading any solution over the last five years I have been on this forum. So you may not get an adequate answer.
    I have tested answer, i mean it doesnt work out for me.so its not possible to have sub folders i guess.

    i jus forced myself to reply this post jus because seeing u both came forward to ans my qns.i don want to argue back steve.Lets end it up here.

    Thank you steve & andrea
    Good bye

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  • Steve Wood
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    Re: Open microsoft application from Alpha(hope it also wont add in my few un answered

    I think its great that you came back and tried to start the technical conversation again, and to get some answers to your question. I'm not sure anyone has a tested answer, I don't recall reading any solution over the last five years I have been on this forum. So you may not get an adequate answer.

    So I hope you stay on the board. But I think the reason the 'old issue' keeps coming up is that you and sendapail continue to blame others for the calamity you guys caused. Statements like "we don have time to entertain ppl here" and the other guy something like " at least we had some hot discussion" shows that you think that we are to blame and that your complaints about our inadequacy are more important than others' time. That's just my opinion based on being on the receiving end of some of this, it may not be shared by others.

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  • NoeticCC
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    Originally posted by DOntquIT View Post
    Andrea,
    My intention is to find out whether is there any built in function in alpha five to provide link to MS-application or not?
    By the wy the most straightforward solution to THIS would be to have a blank document on the server and have the link open THAT - same effect as opening Word or whatever the default app for that document type is...

    and my next one is to know whether can create folders and sub folders to place modules or not?
    Had you jusy TRIED it, you might have found that you can't, however there seems to be no real technical reason why this should not be possible, so had you emailed tech support or submitted a bug report instead of getting stroppy because volunteers on a public forum didn't serve you up the solution on a silver platter, you may well have been pleasantly surprised by Alpha's willingness to make changes in response to user's queries....

    i dont find my second qns as limitation of HTML as u said.
    Sorry I was talking about the Microsoft App stuff, which is the title of the thread.

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  • DOntquIT
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    Re: Open microsoft application from Alpha(hope it also wont add in my few un answered

    Originally posted by NicholasWieland View Post
    I have to comment ...... I am new to this whole Alpha thing.... and yes just like any product it has pluses and minuses. However dontquite and sendwhatever.. I am new to this product and with a little help from this forum and one of the guys herein "we" rolled out a pretty cool app in what I will say is record time and with very few problems. Why??? Cause I took the advice of those here, you are foolish (I really want to use other words-it's the Brooklyn in me) not to listen and I for one think you need to bury your attitude, or stop using the product!
    50+ and no patience for negativity.
    Andrea,
    My intention is to find out whether is there any built in function in alpha five to provide link to MS-application or not? and my next one is to know whether can create folders and sub folders to place modules or not? if answer is "no built in function " thats all my question is answered and for my second one if the ans is " no it is not possible or yes you can procced this way...." again my qns are answered.This wat i expect as a power user or customer.

    i dont find my second qns as limitation of HTML as u said.
    Even the problem i told you about when i shift from WYSIWYG to source or vice versa, my code are deleted, the answer provided here is "it will happen if there is frame". ok but i don have frame at all in that page.but i don wan to post back and argue with u guys again since i find it as a small issue.
    sometimes when two a5wpages are opened, one page override the other one.

    i don find all this as HTML problem ..

    Nicholas,

    It will be better if you use proper words here when you are replyin to my post.if im foolish i would nt have in the place where am now and woudnt have developed best web application using alpha software where i found limitations are more.
    I jus wanna gv up with hot conversation here and get back to my work.we don have time to entertain ppl here.thats y i jus posted back my question again.now it will be better if you guys (interupter or those who jus wanna comment rather than solving problems) dint dig back the old stuffs and if can jus help out to say whether is that possible or not for my earlier post rather than teaching me attitude.

    it will be pretty well if you can check all my posts in this forum if you got time before u comment about me.

    if someone dont want to reply , nevermind im not depending on anyone here. i can find my own solution as how i found solution for big issues.

    Thank you very much for all the support provided.
    This will be last post to your forum.
    Ended up with frustration.
    Last edited by DOntquIT; 08-19-2008, 12:52 AM.

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  • NoeticCC
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    Originally posted by NicholasWieland View Post
    I have to comment ...... I am new to this whole Alpha thing.... and yes just like any product it has pluses and minuses.
    Agreed with your post, plus... the limitations discussed in this thread are limitations of HTML-based web pages, full stop, NOT of Alpha5.

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  • NicholasWieland
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    Re: Open microsoft application from Alpha(hope it also wont add in my few un answered

    I have to comment ...... I am new to this whole Alpha thing.... and yes just like any product it has pluses and minuses. However dontquite and sendwhatever.. I am new to this product and with a little help from this forum and one of the guys herein "we" rolled out a pretty cool app in what I will say is record time and with very few problems. Why??? Cause I took the advice of those here, you are foolish (I really want to use other words-it's the Brooklyn in me) not to listen and I for one think you need to bury your attitude, or stop using the product!

    50+ and no patience for negativity.

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  • DOntquIT
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    Originally posted by DOntquIT View Post
    I have a question here.we are developing a system with several modules with a team of four.
    Lets say my module name is A which is inside folder folderA, now i want to
    copy my team members modules lets assume(b,c,d) in to my Pc.so i want to create folderB , folderC,folderD and put corrsponding comp and pages in that folders.

    Is that possible or not?

    Regarding my second query, we are still workin on it to find some other better solution.

    Coluld anyone let me know whethere this one can be done or not?

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  • NoeticCC
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    Originally posted by Steve Workings View Post
    In German, we have a treatment for this. It's called KwitcherBitcheien.
    LOL... as a native (Swiss) German speaker, you nearly had me there...

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  • sendamail
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    and we are not interested to read paragraphs of pain or stories here, we just wanted to know "time subtraction" example is working or not, if not working.. just reply "yes, this is not working" thats all we need..

    we don't need you to take too much pain to type all the stories here, or appreciation or criticism..

    we just want to know whether can or can not? thats all..

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  • sendamail
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    :) IE browser is sufficient for us, and Dontquit is asking for an intranet web application only..

    but the author or this world didn't say its impossible, except this alpha forum

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  • sendamail
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    steve..

    i agree with whatever you say, but its very simple

    just ask somebody to answer the time subtraction question if you can.. if u can not, accept the same that alpha5 can't do what it is saying..

    coming to the frames and going to the wyswig mode all we know..

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  • Steve Wood
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    Also, because I was curious and searched, LAUNCHINIE means Launch In Internet Explorer. It's ActiveX and won't run in any other browser. The author himself says it is only suitable in an Intranet environment.

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  • Steve Wood
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    99% of your problem (aside from your attitude) is that you are not taking the time to appreciate and learn Alpha Five. You are treating it like some other development product perhaps more familiar to you. Your pages are blowing up most likely because you are filling them with javascript and other code that the WYSIWYG HTML Editor cannot parse. For instance, if you try to use Frames in Source and then toggle to WYSIWYG, the whole page code will disappear because WYSIWYG can't handle it. So in that case, and whatever may be the cause in your place, you simply must stay in Source all the time, not venture in to WYSIWYG.

    As both a desktop and web development platform, used by a developer who has an appreciation for and understanding of how to use Alpha, it is nearly flawless*. Alpha is not .Net, Java, NetBeans, or anything else; it's Alpha. Both Steve Workings and I, and lots of other developers, have built fabulous web applications using Alpha. But our success is because we know how Alpha works, and work mostly within it's boundries. Time with the product, patiently building appreciation and understanding is the key. Methods involving JavaScript, AJAX, etc. are relatively new to us as a community. That is to say, those with the most Alpha experience are not always those with the best skill in those technologies.

    Which brings me back to your Attitude. Just as the other Steve said, I normally ignore 'lack of appreciation' because everyone has their nature, and everyone gets up on the wrong side some days. I only do this about 30% for the accolades, so I am pretty well covered (maybe its 70% for the accolades, I don't know). But you are being unwise in striking out against those who provide 'support' here. You do that more than a few times and see how your questions go unanswered. It's all very democratic. All the top developers know and respect each other. You don't even know who Steve is; if you did you would not dump on him as you have. (And I assume I am next, we'll see.)

    It comes down to 1) take the time to learn and appreciate Alpha as a development platform, or 2) hire someone who has, or 3) don't use Alpha if it doesn't meet your standards, and above all 4) if you are committed to using Alpha, help the Alpha community grow with comments and contributions that help all of us understand your needs so we can help you and also help the product evolve. Your commitment to the community of developers and power users will come back ten-fold to help you.

    I mean it really is difficult to provide this 'support' and many on the recieving end don't realize what pain we go through to uncover and resolve your problem (most do appreciate it). Add to that, your issues are rather complex and out of the ordinary. That plus I/we don't know everything.

    I don't ask questions very often, but I can be sure that when I do, one or more developers will take half a day to figure out some solution to my problem. And they know that I will return that favor back to the community with some sort of analysis or description of what worked. That's a long term committment approach, and that's what Steve meant about patience.
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    *Which doesn't mean I have a long list of desires and a few bug fixes I'm waiting for.
    Last edited by Steve Wood; 08-15-2008, 03:16 AM. Reason: removed some text - mixing up who I am responding to

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