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    runtime road block - web app?

    I was about to get my client a working version for testing and got the error about runtime license. The cost just isn't in the budget for me right now so now I have to scramble, go back and recreate everything I've done as a web application since I do have a license for that.

    I don't mind doing web applications because I've designed sites before, but it's definitely not as easy moving the fields around freeform inside the alpafive web components. You can't see what you're doing until you do the preview (unless I'm missing something).

    Do you know of an easier way for me to move the fields around or could you suggest an HTML editor that works with alpha five apps? I have frontpage and dreamweaver right now.

    Also, the IP address I have is just for the client. Couldn't I move the program to that computer (under tight security of course) and let them run it from there? If so, could multiple users get to it? Oh, and would it be breaking the license I have for the software.
    Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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    Re: runtime road block - web app?

    Here is a copy of one of the menus to Add jobs so you can see what I'm up against.
    Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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      #3
      Re: runtime road block - web app?

      Originally posted by eboughey1 View Post
      I was about to get my client a working version for testing and got the error about runtime license. The cost just isn't in the budget for me right now so ...
      ...
      Also, the IP address I have is just for the client. Couldn't I move the program to that computer (under tight security of course) and let them run it from there? If so, could multiple users get to it? Oh, and would it be breaking the license I have for the software.
      STOP! (only kidding) But, before you go full steam ahead, you DO realize that you need a WAS license, right? Not sure about the cost differences between the WAS and the RT, but it might be the same difference. Also, the WAS license is only good for one machine, where as the RT is reusable. Something to think about.
      Peter
      AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

      [email protected]
      https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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        Re: runtime road block - web app?

        I have a Web App Server Unlimited license. Is that what you are talking about?

        The problem is that I've designed it all for the desktop with forms. I have to create new menus and forms that are hard to recreate easily in Alpha.

        I'd love to see a freeform Editor in Alpha that works like the Form Editor with the drag and drop / toolbox. Something you can see on the screen while you create.
        Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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          #5
          Re: runtime road block - web app?

          Originally posted by eboughey1 View Post
          I have a Web App Server Unlimited license. Is that what you are talking about?
          Not sure that I have heard of the Unlimited Web App Server license. I believe one license is only good for one machine. An unlimited number of users can access the web site, but that is true of any web page - eh?

          Check this out:
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          and this:

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          I'd love to see a freeform Editor in Alpha that works like the Form Editor with the drag and drop / toolbox. Something you can see on the screen while you create.
          You, me and everyone else!
          Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 06-02-2023, 02:05 PM. Reason: removed broken link
          Peter
          AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

          [email protected]
          https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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            Re: runtime road block - web app?

            Originally posted by eboughey1 View Post
            I have frontpage and dreamweaver right now.
            Do a search for dreamweaver on this forum and you should find some help on how others use it along with Alpha.

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              #7
              Re: runtime road block - web app?

              Has anyone come across a video tutorial for designing a web page using the free form feature or third party software?
              Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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                #8
                Re: runtime road block - web app?

                If you can wait until Friday, join our Noon web seminar and I will cover that for you. See the website for webinars.
                Steve Wood
                See my profile on IADN

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                  Re: runtime road block - web app?

                  I'll definitely take advantage of a webinar.

                  I noticed that book 'Web Apps made Easy'. Does that cover the freeform design and is it a good investment? I thought I might get the download.
                  Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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                    Re: runtime road block - web app?

                    Originally posted by eboughey1 View Post

                    I noticed that book 'Web Apps made Easy'. Does that cover the freeform design and is it a good investment?
                    Check it out:
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                    Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 06-02-2023, 02:05 PM. Reason: removed broken link
                    Peter
                    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

                    [email protected]
                    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                      Re: runtime road block - web app?

                      Originally posted by eboughey1 View Post
                      The cost just isn't in the budget for me right now so now I have to scramble, go back and recreate everything I've done as a web application since I do have a license for that.
                      Just an observation....if your client is paying you by the hour to develop this for them then the cost of the Runtime really becomes kind of a non issue (it would seem to me)as the increased cost for the hours it is going to take you to re-create everything on the web side would seemingly easily exceed the cost of the Runtime.

                      I guess it depends on your payment arrangement from them though I guess.... If you quoted a fixed price, I guess it depends on what value you put on your time. Depending on the complexity of your desktop forms / app - you can expect a BIG increase in time to duplicate the same thing on the web side.....at least for your first time using Alpha to develop on the web side IMHO.

                      Regards,

                      Jeff

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                        Re: runtime road block - web app?

                        True about the time it will take to recreate. It's a good thing I have web design experience. I've charged a fixed price, but it was a big number so I'm not too concerned on the cost side. I received half up front and balance on delivery. Plus, I have several other clients that have expressed interest in what I'm creating to have for their own company. I may be able to sell this as a package for direct mail companies...

                        By the way, there is a video tutorial for flexible web dialog components on the Alpha site. I've been able to move around much better since watching it. It's not too great with the way CSS looks though (yet). I'm looking forward to the Webinar on Friday to see someone with lots of experience. I need all the help I can get.

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                        Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 06-02-2023, 02:05 PM. Reason: removed broken link
                        Up and coming Alphaholic ;)

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