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Record Navigator has super duper long links

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    Record Navigator has super duper long links

    I have an updatable web grid with various items, checkboxes and dateboxes mostly.

    Seems that whenever I make changes to the contents of the updatable grid, and submit, the information gets stored properly, and the page refreshes and redisplays. However, when clicking the "Page 2" in the record navigator, or the column headings to resort the grid, nothing happens.

    Seems hovering the mouse over the links in the record navigator (to get to page 2,3 etc), reveal that the links being generated by Alpha are extremely long... (they are literally hundreds of thousands of characters long), and obviously when clicking on them, the browser has no idea what to do.

    Steve has pointed out that this is necessary due to the way Alpha parses the pages, but I'm not sure that things are working as designed, as it simply doesn't work. It all LOOKS fine, but is unusable.

    I've attached the component, in case someone can tell me a way to solve this problem.

    My users and I are frustrated, as getting to see page 2 and 3 etc is not working. (unless the page is refreshed WITHOUT a submit) (I would suspect there is a ton of overhead in the system as it calculates and assembles these links).

    Any help would be much appreciated.


    Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

    Can you try your page in FireFox ?


      Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

      There is something wrong and it will be easy to resolve - the grid is no good without the customer file, Send it and I will take a look.
      Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
      Albert Einstein, (attributed)
      US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)


        Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

        Hi yes,

        I have tried it in Firefox, IE and Opera. All can't process the length of the url.

        I've even tried "copy/paste" of the guts of the link into Notepad... I'm not over exaggerating if I tell you that the url of the links is hundreds of pages long. (the browsers only display the first x characters though).

        Oh, and another observation... Once submit is pressed.. the url (in the address bar) now has a "?" at the end of it, and nothing more.

        Once must first DELETE the ?, then refresh the page for it to generate the page properly. Then clicking on "Page 2" etc, and sorting, works properly... but ONLY to the next time one makes changes to the page and hits SUBMIT.

        h ttp://[/url] (the above is only 1% of what gets dumped)

        And goes on and on and on.... it's like the entire database gets dumped ENTIRELY into the link address... ALL RECORDS get dumped...
        Page looks great though...its only the link addresses that are messed up, and ONLY after submit (with changes) is clicked and the page refreshes.

        Thanks for any tips!!!
        Last edited by billkay; 07-13-2009, 07:18 AM.


          Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

          The table?
          Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
          Albert Einstein, (attributed)
          US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)


            Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

            PM'd you with it...


              Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

              I have sent a video, seems to work fine here. I'd install Alpha again and look at how it's been served. VPS Dedicated etc. You will really benefit from V10.
              Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
              Albert Einstein, (attributed)
              US (German-born) physicist (1879 - 1955)


                Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

                Hmm... seems to behave the same either way, localhost and same on the production Zebrahost server.

                I will attempt to reinstall later on, and see what happens.

                Thanks again,


                  Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

                  Now, how do I get my grubby hands on v10? I've looked on the order page, and still v9 is it... is everyone here only beta-testing it?


                    Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

                    v10 has not been released yet. There are links available to request to be a Beta tester but that is it.
                    It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
                    It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
                    Henry David Thoreau


                      Re: Record Navigator has super duper long links

                      Hi Bill
                      I found the same super long links under the same conditions that you reported some time ago. But in my case it was crashing the component. After a submit, pressing the next in the navigator brings up an Alpha error page.

                      500 Internal Server Error
                      "Script Error
                      Error:Script: /npap/feecand.a5w line:32
                      x_feecand = a5w_run_Component(tmpl_feecand) 'SYSTEM GENERATED COMMENT - PLEASE
                      Property not found
                      tmpl.request.variables.v subelement not found."

                      Using the navigator works ok except after a submit. I did find a fix (or work around if you like). In the component update settings, for the target page I replaced <self> with the actual name of the page. That fixed the long links and the crash. I can now use the submit and follow that with using the next on the navigator. The only downside is after a submit it always returns to the first page of the grid. So if a user is working on page two and submits they return to page one not page two.

                      Like always thanks to everyone on this forum.