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What is meant by "the Application Server"?

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  • GGandhi
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    I see. But
    the webserver that comes with the software allows to develop and deploy in the local machine unless you buy separate license. When you are developing for your intranet, say for few people, I do not want to spend extra money. If only Alphafive has a situation like Filemaker has, where five people can access with the supplied server and if they need more then they can shell out the extra cash.

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  • Lenny Forziati
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    Originally posted by GGandhi View Post
    Suppose one buys an unlimited user license for A9 Version of application server and then migarate to Version 10 then that unlimited license is no longer capable of hosting the 10 version or for that matter any future versions, right?
    Licenses are version-specific.

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  • GGandhi
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    Suppose one buys an unlimited user license for A9 Version of application server and then migarate to Version 10 then that unlimited license is no longer capable of hosting the 10 version or for that matter any future versions, right?

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  • Peter.Greulich
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    OK, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

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  • Lenny Forziati
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
    I thought there was a 30-minute auto time-out on the development version preventing using it for a live website? If that is no longer true, then we can save ourselves the cost of at least one WAS license.
    You still need a license. But putting your license in Alpha Five or the stand-alone server will give you identical functionality. Without a license, either one will give you just the demo mode.

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  • Peter.Greulich
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    Originally posted by Lenny Forziati View Post
    The server, when run from within Alpha Five, can do everything the stand-alone server does, including user access to your application if you have installed your license there.
    I thought there was a 30-minute auto time-out on the development version preventing using it for a live website? If that is no longer true, then we can save ourselves the cost of at least one WAS license.

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  • seaken64
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    Thank you again Lenny.

    So, as I understand you I did NOT need to install the Application Server package on my server machine since this machine already has the full developer version installed. I did not know that.

    Is there an advantage to me re-doing my installation or should I just leave it as is? I believe I have two separate installations of the server installed. Or maybe it's two separate licenses on the same machine? At any rate, I currently need to use the settings page of BOTH versions to get the right results. Not what I expected but now that I know what to do I can live with it.

    Sean

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  • Lenny Forziati
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    Re: What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    Originally posted by seaken64 View Post
    While reading on the wiki I am reading the term "the Application Server" and it seems to be referring to the built-in server that comes with Alpha Five since version 6. But isn't this confusing?

    In fact, this version of the AS does not allow any internet users to access your web application. For such access you need the REAL Application Server with the appropriate license.

    Why does the documentation refer to this built-in version of the server as "the Application Server"? Shouldn't it be called something like the "Built-in Version of the Application Server"? or the "Development Server", or something else?

    To me, the Application Server refers to the licensed version of the server that allows user access to the web applications on the server.

    Is this just a case of out-dated documentation? It is confusing for us non-developers who don't quite get the whole thing. At the very least it would be helpful if the documentation made a clear distinction between the built-in "Testing" version and the "REAL" Application Server when discussing settings and configuring the directories on the server.

    Can we make an updated entry in the wiki to make it clear that BOTH versions of the server must be properly setup when both versions are on the same machine?

    Sean
    The "built-in Testing version" IS the "REAL Application Server", just hosted within Alpha Five. You can do everything that the stand-alone server can do. So what you refer to the "real" server is Alpha Five with the development environment removed. The documentation tends to make no differentiation between the two programs because almost no difference exists.

    The server, when run from within Alpha Five, can do everything the stand-alone server does, including user access to your application if you have installed your license there.

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  • seaken64
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    What is meant by "the Application Server"?

    While reading on the wiki I am reading the term "the Application Server" and it seems to be referring to the built-in server that comes with Alpha Five since version 6. But isn't this confusing?

    In fact, this version of the AS does not allow any internet users to access your web application. For such access you need the REAL Application Server with the appropriate license.

    Why does the documentation refer to this built-in version of the server as "the Application Server"? Shouldn't it be called something like the "Built-in Version of the Application Server"? or the "Development Server", or something else?

    To me, the Application Server refers to the licensed version of the server that allows user access to the web applications on the server.

    Is this just a case of out-dated documentation? It is confusing for us non-developers who don't quite get the whole thing. At the very least it would be helpful if the documentation made a clear distinction between the built-in "Testing" version and the "REAL" Application Server when discussing settings and configuring the directories on the server.

    Can we make an updated entry in the wiki to make it clear that BOTH versions of the server must be properly setup when both versions are on the same machine?

    Sean
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