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Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

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  • Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

    Iím a home user of AlphaFive v9. I have a collection of things listed in an A5 database. I want to sell the items on the internet (not Ebay or its ilk).

    Since I donít want my system to be the server, I would need the database to reside in a server on the internet. I have been looking at 1&1 to be the web host based on all the features they provide.

    Iím not worried about the page design or things like payment, etc. at this point. I just want to know how what I have to do to make the database available and searchable on the web.

    I have looked at Web Publishing and the Application Server in the help file but have no idea where to begin. The best I can tell is I wouldnít necessarily use either one if Iím going to use a web hosting site.

    Would someone get me started?

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    Re: Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

    If you want Internet traffic to your Alpha Five web app, then you must deploy the Alpha Five Web Application Server. Alpha web apps do not run on IIS or any other web server. You cannot use a 'cheap' hosting service, you need a virtual server or dedicated server, where you have access to the desktop and can install your own software (e.g., the Alpha Five web app server). You can also host it at home on pretty much any machine, using a service like No-IP.com to provide you with a dedicated URL to your home-based server.
    Steve Wood
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      Re: Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

      Thanks for your reply.

      I don't want to use any home device as a server. It would have to run continuously. Maybe I should just convert the table to another format that can be used on a website such as 1&1's Windows host site. I'm totally ignorant of how a webpage works.

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        Re: Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

        Although I am an Alpha fan, if you only have a simple list that can be shown in HTML, I'd render a plain HTML page with all of your items in tables; something simple. Then upload it to an inexpensive hosting service like 1and1. Name the page index.htm or whatever is the default main page. Often those companies have easy-to-use website builders to round out your website. Going from that to a full Alpha-based website is a good sized jump in terms of hosting and additional software to purchase and deploy.
        Steve Wood
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          Re: Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

          1&1 is the website builder that I''ve been talking with, as I mentioned earlier. They have Windows based hosting.

          The thing that I haven't wrapped my head around is that the A5 help file talks about Publishing a Web Project and says that a completed application can be published to a web server. Your first response seems to indicate that is not possible.

          Also, somewhere in the help file it also talks about being to create your own website from within A5. I think that is what you're talking about in regards to a full Alpha-based website.

          Please continue to go light on me. I'm in dark waters regarding websites.

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            Re: Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

            They mean published to the Alpha Five web server.
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              Re: Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

              Originally posted by robert View Post
              Also, somewhere in the help file it also talks about being to create your own website from within A5.
              Yes, Alpha can do that in spades. But, as Steve says, you will need a VPS or a dedicated server. If you are not self-hosting you may be paying around $50 per month or so for a VPS - much more for a dedicated server. Building a web app in Alpha, even a simple one, requires some knowledge. Like Steve says, sites like 1&1 make it easy to do this - BUT, they won't work with Alpha out of the box. As someone here says "Web development is hard".
              Peter
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                Re: Using a AlphaFive database on a hosted website

                Thanks Peter-

                All I want to do is make the table available and searchable on the website. Almost every website has a search feature but I don't know what the search engine is or it's capabilities and what format the data has to be in for the search feature to function. Of course, I want a user to be able to select a particular field to search the table on and the search to display all records that corresponds to the search criteria. I don't think that I asked 1&1 the correct questions, in that regard. I was just thinking about using A5 and, of course, they didn't know anything about it. I think I should go back to them and phrase my questions differently. I came here to see what the capabilities are within A5 and how to implement them on the web.

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