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    Active Link tables and sets

    I currently have Alpha Five version 9. I am evaluating upgrading to version 10, but would like some informed feedback first. In version 9, I have found sets composed of Active Link SQL tables to be very slow. Has the speed improved in version 10?

    Up until now, I have only created desktop apps, but the slowness described above has greatly hindered what I can use Alpha for.

    Could those of you who have come from version 9 describe your satisfaction / dissatisfaction with the upgrade?

    I would like to put together a corporate intranet web site in the near future, so if anyone has done something similar with version 10, that would be nice to know as well.

    Thanks in advance for any insight.

    Re: Active Link tables and sets

    Anyone alive out there ? :-)


      Re: Active Link tables and sets

      Originally posted by cx600 View Post
      Anyone alive out there ? :-)
      How is this current thread any different from your last thread?
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        Re: Active Link tables and sets

        I guess if you had paid a little more attention, you would have noticed that my last thread was in the Alpha Five Version NINE forum. In that thread I was asking if it was possible to speed up the Active Link tables in version NINE. In that thread I was left with the impression that the problem can not be overcome in version NINE.

        If you look closely, you will see that this is the Alpha Five Version TEN forum. Therefor, I am asking helpful people if the problem with version NINE has been reduced or eliminated in version TEN.

        Hopefully your response is not indicative of a general intolerance to new users who are asking questions while trying to make decisions.

        Thanks to anyone with a helpful response.


          Re: Active Link tables and sets

          Originally posted by cx600 View Post
          ....In version 9, I have found sets composed of Active Link SQL tables to be very slow. Has the speed improved in version 10?....
          Why don't you just download the V10 trial version and see for yourself if the speed has changed?


            Re: Active Link tables and sets

            Thanks for the response Raymond; I may do that. Perhaps there are not many Apha developers that use the product with SQL Active Link sets. Seems hard to believe for a product with Alpha's feature set.


              Re: Active Link tables and sets

              I've been using Alpha 10.5 for about three months now. I have a networked application using native Alpha DBF tables, and it works fine. I bought the 'Alpha DataBase Upsize Genie' to switch to SQL Server 2005, and active link tables.

              Any browses, forms, or reports that are based on sets are extremely slow! I had to switch back to native alpha tables. I'm out the $250.00.


                Re: Active Link tables and sets

                I don't mean to rub salt in the wound but, by any chance, did you have any layouts based just on single active link tables? If so, was the performance reasonable? I've been trying on and off for the past few months to coax decent speed from a form based on a single active link table but without much success.

                As a result I'm in the process of building xdialogs from which to do direct SQL calls to the back end, but it would sure be nice to have the option to use an existing form instead of having to rebuild everything from scratch.


                  Re: Active Link tables and sets

                  No. I have 4 tables, 7 if you count the read only tables. Browses, Forms that are based on only one table work OK, but anything that uses the set (only 4 tables in the set) is extremely slow, and I only have about 50 records in the database.


                    Re: Active Link tables and sets

                    Hi carlclay (and Finnian);

                    Some time back I upgraded to 10.5 hoping to achieve some speed improvements in the active link arena. I still found it to be far too slow. I am pretty well resigned to only using Alpha for native tables. It ruins the RAD aspect of Alpha to have to hand code everything to get around the problem. I will look for a different development tool for use with SQL. Sorry I didn't follow this thread. I might have been able to save you some time, frustration, and money.