How to do outliner?

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: How to do outliner?

Well, I'm the HTML babe, so maybe I can contribute something.

Go to town...

http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...532#post524532

[rmcgaffic]

Re: How to do outliner?

Peter,

Jeff at Bennet-Tec got back to me. This code was all that was necessary to allow the grid and tree items to be edited:

dim global TList1 As P
TList1 = Activex1.ActiveX.this

TList1.Grid.Cols = 5

TList1.EditingMode = 2
TList1.EditingMode = 3

Below is very much a work in progress, but it is progress. The TList8 control allows in-line editing. Here I have double clicked on a field to edit it but I could set an Editing mode property to edit on single click. Result: Can remove all pencil icons

I plan to add a button to allow a new record on any node of the tree. Result: Can remove all "Add lines" at the bottom of every indented group.

I can add or remove the tree lines and change color also.

I congratulate you and Mario for your always amazing creativity.

But I think that I will continue to explore TList8's capabilities with the end objective of replicating the ease of use that you are familiar with.

I envision a form with a toggle button between [Display/change]
If display: A line could be edited only if it is doubleclicked

If change: A line could be added simply by pressing the [Enter] key. This is the way Microsoft Word and Ecco both work and is necessary to capture thoughts rapidly without distracting key and mouse clicks. And a clean, simple,
compact appearance to boot!


Hopefully the result will be a simple outliner that can keep up with your thinking process and yet integrate with your Alpha Five application data.

Screen 1: Shows tree items being edited
Screens 2, 3: Shows grid items being edited
Screen 4: Shows automatic hierarchical outline numbering

Bob McGaffic
Pittsburgh

[Peter.Greulich]

Re: How to do outliner?

I congratulate you and Mario for your always amazing creativity.

Bob,

Not sure why you would congrat me, but congratulate yourself! You are the person with a better understanding of a clean and intuitive UI than most people on this board have.

[rmcgaffic]

Re: How to do outliner?

Just want to report some further research.

Earlier I provided a link to:
http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topi...t-of-outliners

As it turns out, this site also has a forum to which I posted the following:

What is best ActiveX or .net control for adding Outlining to
your Microsoft Access, Visual Studio, Alpha Five, etc . application
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Posted by rmcgaffic
Feb 5, 2010 at 03:05 PM

Has anyone on this forum ever:

1.  Integrated one of these outliners with their own application database?
2.  Used an ActiveX or .net control to add outlining capability to their 
own application.

If you have successfully done either, could you please post 
the outliner or the control that you used.

My issue is this: 
An outliner like ECCO features great outlining, but weak person
contact information.  If you would like to have similar outlining 
capability but link to your Access database of persons, 
employees, vendors, etc. what tool is best.

Thanks, 
Bob McGaffic
Pittsburgh, PA

I received this very interesting reply

Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Feb 5, 2010 at 03:41 PM 

This is more of a user forum than a developer one, so you may 
get a better response from something like DonationCoder…

I use exOntrol components. These are very nice. Samples are provided 
to integrate with Access (though I have not used them with 
Access myself)

http://www.exontrol.com/sg.jsp?content=exontrol

Of course, if you’re looking for a modern Ecco Pro with better 
database features, you may find that InfoQube does it all for you. 
No development required !

HTH

Pierre Paul Landry
InfoQube designer
http://www.infoqube.biz

Please check this site for some very impressive screenprints of what Pierre has done with this control:

http://sites.google.com/site/infoqube/Features.

Also I have attached some screenprints. This is a real cotton-pickin outliner!
This can allow you to add project management features to your Alpha
Five application.

This is very, very close to what I am trying to do. This may be the needle
the haystack I've been looking for. If Pierre suggests that it can work
with Microsoft Accesss, I'd like to hope that it is also compatible with
Alpha Five. Has anyone here everyworked with exontrols?

Gee, if we could only get exontrols's hierarchical grid to work with
Alpha Five and get Codejock's XtremeCalenderPro to work with
Alpha Five, and for the cherry on top, get a modern tab control --
what a development tool we would have!

Think of it: Alpha applications could look like store bought dresses instead of
home sewn ones.

Bob McGaffic
Pittsburgh, PA

[rmcgaffic]

Re: How to do outliner?

For sake of completeness,

here's the link that Pierre mentioned above, more geared to developers than
end users:

http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&gl=us

Bob McGaffic
Pittsburgh, PA