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    Form Layout to edit records malfunction

    The "Form Layout to edit record" feature seems to be malfunctioning.

    Create and use a form which can be used in place of the default form. Then go to the Field Rules tab in the control panel and define a table lookup. Use the form you created in place of the default form.

    When you try it out, do you get the form you created or the default form?

    I can only get the default form. This has been an issue for me in the last several patches.

    Thanks,

    Ken
    TYVM :) kenn

    Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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    Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

    Ken

    I followed your instructions on one of my forms. I created a form for my job table (test table). The went to field rules of my will_work table and under jobs created a lookup table using the new form in the form layout to edit records. Save it then opened the will_work form and entered a new record, went to the job field and clicked on the down arrow and the regular drop down came up. Clicked enter and the form that I had created for this test came up - not a default form.

    I am using the new patch 2814-3539.

    What version of 10 are you working with?

    Tom

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      #3
      Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

      Hi Tom,

      Thanks for checking. I have not had the best results with the last couple of patches so I did not update right away. I updated with 3539 and it's now working the same as yours.

      I know my memory is aging but at one time, did not the form/browse which is used in place of the default form/browse, pop up right away instead of the default browse?

      kenn
      TYVM :) kenn

      Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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        Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

        Kenn

        I think since A5V5 if you named a browse and a form in the lookup table options, Alpha would show those. Most times I don't use a named browse for the layout but use Alpha default browse - but do use a named form to enter records. But Alpha will always bring up the browse (named or default) first.

        Like you said, my memory is also aging so anything back 15 years or more - your guess is as good as mine.

        Tom

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          Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

          Originally posted by Tbaker View Post
          Kenn

          I think since A5V5 if you named a browse and a form in the lookup table options, Alpha would show those. Most times I don't use a named browse for the layout but use Alpha default browse - but do use a named form to enter records. But Alpha will always bring up the browse (named or default) first.

          Like you said, my memory is also aging so anything back 15 years or more - your guess is as good as mine.

          Tom
          No matter which method is used, I spose for some double duty is ok but I would think it would one step shorter if the form popped up at the git go without Alpha's default browse.

          kenn
          TYVM :) kenn

          Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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            Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

            Kenn

            The browse should be the first to pop up when you think about it. It is really what you need in 95% of the times - because the lookup value is already in the lookup table. The form is for entering new data into the lookup table so it really should pop up only when it is needs for new records.

            But I guess it is a matter of preference - whether it is the browsw and you have to change to the form or if it is the form and you have to change to the browse to see all the records.

            There are times I use the default browse for the lookup and a named form for entering and then there are times I roll my own to see more records and control the input and output.

            It is whatever works for you.

            Tom

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              Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

              Originally posted by Tbaker View Post
              Kenn

              The browse should be the first to pop up when you think about it. It is really what you need in 95% of the times - because the lookup value is already in the lookup table. The form is for entering new data into the lookup table so it really should pop up only when it is needs for new records.

              But I guess it is a matter of preference - whether it is the browsw and you have to change to the form or if it is the form and you have to change to the browse to see all the records.

              There are times I use the default browse for the lookup and a named form for entering and then there are times I roll my own to see more records and control the input and output.

              It is whatever works for you.

              Tom
              Yes, that is the conclusion I came to as the reason for the way it is. However, There should be no reason why the form cannot contain a browse as well as separate fields. A nicely designed form would look "classier" than a default browse for which the developer cannot make any enhancements. Additionally, if there is a 'theme' fort the app, it could be designed to follow the theme.

              kenn
              TYVM :) kenn

              Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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                Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

                Kenn

                That is why I roll my own on occasion. I have an order entry program where the lookup need was to find specifics on a apartment complex units as well as being able to enter new items on the fly. I did exactly as you suggested, I created a button that was just a down arrow with code to open a form. The visibility of the button was controlled by the OnArrive event and the OnDepart event of the field so that the button would not be visible if the field did have focus. It was form (called as a dialog) that had search capabilities as well as the ability to enter new records.

                So what you are suggesting is well with the realm of being resonable and it would be more professional.

                I guess what I am saying is that if you want that kind of depth, you will probably have to take the time to put it together and rely on Alpha for the percentage of times that is left when you want a simple lookup, with no bells and whistles.

                Tom

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                  Re: Form Layout to edit records malfunction

                  Originally posted by Tbaker View Post
                  Kenn

                  That is why I roll my own on occasion. I have an order entry program where the lookup need was to find specifics on a apartment complex units as well as being able to enter new items on the fly. I did exactly as you suggested, I created a button that was just a down arrow with code to open a form. The visibility of the button was controlled by the OnArrive event and the OnDepart event of the field so that the button would not be visible if the field did have focus. It was form (called as a dialog) that had search capabilities as well as the ability to enter new records.

                  So what you are suggesting is well with the realm of being resonable and it would be more professional.

                  I guess what I am saying is that if you want that kind of depth, you will probably have to take the time to put it together and rely on Alpha for the percentage of times that is left when you want a simple lookup, with no bells and whistles.

                  Tom
                  Tom,

                  I appreciate your comments. Since Alpha is big on 'professional' looks, etc., perhaps they will give this serious consideration.

                  kenn
                  TYVM :) kenn

                  Knowing what you can achieve will not become reality until you imagine and explore.

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