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    Password Style missing on Field Properties

    Am I missing something?

    Right-click on a character field to bring up the Property window. I'm using a Global character variable to get a password. I don't want the typed text visible.

    Select Setup Tab
    Control Type drop down. There is no password style. Yet if you press the help button, you see a password style control option.
    Regards,
    Chet Sapino
    President,
    SAPINO Enterprises
    6451 Pheasant Rd
    East Syracuse, NY 13057

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    Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

    You'd think it'd be there, but it's not. You could use ui_get_password() or format an XDialog box control. That's why the example is in the help dialog. A little searching on this board will turn up other related info.
    -Steve
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      #3
      Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

      Originally posted by Steve Workings View Post
      You'd think it'd be there, but it's not. You could use ui_get_password() or format an XDialog box control. That's why the example is in the help dialog. A little searching on this board will turn up other related info.
      So then it is a bug! Correct?
      Regards,
      Chet Sapino
      President,
      SAPINO Enterprises
      6451 Pheasant Rd
      East Syracuse, NY 13057

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        #4
        Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

        Originally posted by Steve Workings View Post
        You'd think it'd be there, but it's not. You could use ui_get_password() or format an XDialog box control. That's why the example is in the help dialog. A little searching on this board will turn up other related info.
        It is also not there in V9.

        The form is too complex to be redesigned as an X-dialog, and using the ui is clunky. I reported it to Alpha. It needs to be fixed. I am amazed that this issue has been around for such a long time and no one has reported it. It is a necessary feature to have for security reasons.
        Regards,
        Chet Sapino
        President,
        SAPINO Enterprises
        6451 Pheasant Rd
        East Syracuse, NY 13057

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          #5
          Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

          Originally posted by Chet Sapino View Post
          ...I reported it to Alpha. It needs to be fixed. I am amazed that this issue has been around for such a long time and no one has reported it. ...
          It's not a bug, it's just not there. A lot of stuff like that they just sloughed off to xdialog. I doubt that they will "fix" it. But you can make a password field xdialog and embed that in your form as a super control - no?
          Peter
          AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

          [email protected]
          https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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            #6
            Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

            Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
            It's not a bug, it's just not there. A lot of stuff like that they just sloughed off to xdialog. I doubt that they will "fix" it. But you can make a password field xdialog and embed that in your form as a super control - no?
            They should either fix it or get rid of it off the help window button. Don't advertise a feature and then leave it out for several versions, possibly all versions. I reported it so we'll see what kind of response I will get. Normally, they have been very responsive to my requests for new features and especially bug fixes.


            >But you can make a password field xdialog and embed that in your >form as a super control - no?

            Not familiar with how to do this.
            Regards,
            Chet Sapino
            President,
            SAPINO Enterprises
            6451 Pheasant Rd
            East Syracuse, NY 13057

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              #7
              Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

              Originally posted by Chet Sapino View Post
              Not familiar with how to do this.
              Create an xdialog w. a password control. Then embed it in your form as a supercontrol - see attached image...
              Peter
              AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

              [email protected]
              https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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                #8
                Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
                Create an xdialog w. a password control. Then embed it in your form as a supercontrol - see attached image...
                Thanks. I'll take a peek at this.
                Regards,
                Chet Sapino
                President,
                SAPINO Enterprises
                6451 Pheasant Rd
                East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                  #9
                  Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                  chet if there's an error in help file documentation why not notify martin heller?

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                    #10
                    Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                    Originally posted by Tom Cone Jr View Post
                    chet if there's an error in help file documentation why not notify martin heller?
                    The error is not in the help file it is on the form. Do what I did and you will see it. Click on the help icon on the right and a window displays showing the password field that doesn't exist.

                    If it was in my own software, I would call it a bug.
                    Regards,
                    Chet Sapino
                    President,
                    SAPINO Enterprises
                    6451 Pheasant Rd
                    East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                      #11
                      Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                      Chet

                      This topic has been discussed a few times on the message board as evidenced by the listing of similar threads at the bottom of your posting.

                      In fact Tom Cone in 2007 suggested this very format in a wish list item.

                      It seems that not all the choices listed in the ? are available, and as Peter has said some have been pushed off to Xdialog.

                      Maybe the ? choices on the form should be changed.

                      Tom Baker

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                        #12
                        Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                        Originally posted by Tbaker View Post
                        Chet

                        This topic has been discussed a few times on the message board as evidenced by the listing of similar threads at the bottom of your posting.

                        In fact Tom Cone in 2007 suggested this very format in a wish list item.

                        It seems that not all the choices listed in the ? are available, and as Peter has said some have been pushed off to Xdialog.

                        Maybe the ? choices on the form should be changed.

                        Tom Baker
                        There's and old saying, "If you can't deliver it, don't advertise it."

                        It is so important, that it needs to be fixed/deployed. The concept of using Xdialog to do this for someone who knows next to nothing about xdialog (me and a whole host of other a5 users) is not a workable solution.
                        Regards,
                        Chet Sapino
                        President,
                        SAPINO Enterprises
                        6451 Pheasant Rd
                        East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                          #13
                          Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                          Chet, your instructions confused me. The Help button on the Field Properties dialog does NOT open the dialog displaying different control styles. To get that you have to click the button that has the question mark on it, as others have noted.

                          I agree with your point. The dialog "Demonstration of Different Control Styles" should not present options which are not available when using the Control Type selector drop down for the field.

                          Maybe instead of submitting a documentation fix request, you should submit a formal bug report.

                          -- tom

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                            #14
                            Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                            Originally posted by Tom Cone Jr View Post
                            Chet, your instructions confused me. The Help button on the Field Properties dialog does NOT open the dialog displaying different control styles. To get that you have to click the button that has the question mark on it, as others have noted.

                            I agree with your point. The dialog "Demonstration of Different Control Styles" should not present options which are not available when using the Control Type selector drop down for the field.

                            Maybe instead of submitting a documentation fix request, you should submit a formal bug report.

                            -- tom
                            Yeah. It's the little button with the question mark, aka "Help"

                            I submitted it to Selwyn a couple of days ago and haven't heard a word. Perhaps if you submit it as a bug, there may be a response. It really needs to be fixed. It is an important feature available in many other development system with the click of a mouse.
                            Regards,
                            Chet Sapino
                            President,
                            SAPINO Enterprises
                            6451 Pheasant Rd
                            East Syracuse, NY 13057

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                              #15
                              Re: Password Style missing on Field Properties

                              Chet,
                              I agree with you about this and the several other "features" that are listed in various places but are not actually implemented yet....and think it is a good idea to bring these occasionally back into the light for Alpha to see--to either implement or remove from view.......
                              Mike
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