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    How to view forms in development mode naked...

    Hi,

    Can someone tell me if it is possible to view how a form would appear (desktop real estate) without the surrounding development framework being displayed?

    It would be good to compare for different screen display resolutions.

    I hope it isn't only by using the runtime...

    Thanks,

    Paul

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    Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

    How to view forms in development mode naked...
    First take off all your clothes...;)
    Robin

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      #3
      Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

      Paul

      The only was I know to do what I think you want, is to change to form view form design view to check out the positioning etc on the live form.

      The only thing when doing that is to make sure that you save your form before you switch to form view so that if you inadvertently forget where you are and leave the form before it was saved, you will have lost all the work you did on that form since you last saved it.

      When I am designing difficult forms (lots of checkboxes and fields), I switch back and forth to view the position of what I just changed or added in relationship to what was alread there - but it is a look and immediate return to the design mode. I have, on occasion, lost revisions to form that I just completed due to my negligence in not saving the form and forgetting what I was doing (usually after being interrupted)

      Tom

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        Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

        Originally posted by MoGrace View Post
        First take off all your clothes...
        :D:D
        Tim Kiebert
        Eagle Creek Citrus
        A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked just fine.

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          Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

          Originally posted by Tbaker View Post
          The only thing when doing that is to make sure that you save your form before you switch to form view so that if you inadvertently forget where you are and leave the form before it was saved, you will have lost all the work you did on that form since you last saved it.
          You can change an Alpha setting to automatically save which prevents this from happening.
          Glen Schild



          My Blog

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            Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

            Glen

            Good call, forgot about that.

            Tom

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              Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

              You can change an Alpha setting to automatically save
              Maybe this has changed, but in the past there is no way I would ever assume Alpha to save something as there are times when it just would not if it was not done manually. In fact, notice that when a change is done is say a script for a form event, you save it and close the editor....THEN have to save it again for the form to save the changes--a double save and by doing this I have never, even once, have had something not save. I will continue to do this as then I will know for certain that it has been saved.
              Mike
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              It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
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                Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                Mike

                I think best practice is to always manually save your form - you are then sure that there will be no "glitches". I have never used the automatic save when switching from design to view, that is why I forgot about that feature (if you want to call it that). Best Practice - save it yourself and not be sorry.

                We all have run into times when Alpha, for unexplainable reasons, does not perform the way it should - and in most cases is not reproducible.

                Save it and not lose it.

                Tom

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                  Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                  I understand where you are coming from. It is habit for me to automatically hit save even though it may happen automatically. I have found though that sometimes I have forgotten to save and at least this is a fail safe for that.
                  Glen Schild



                  My Blog

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                    Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                    if it is possible to view how a form would appear (desktop real estate) without the surrounding development framework being displayed?
                    I think what Paul is asking, is how to turn off the Dropdown List and Toolbox. Dont know about the naked bit, I have met Paul!!!!!

                    If I have got this right, click on the little cross on each of the supporting dialog boxes. Even in design mode the tool bar will still be visible.

                    Hope this is what you wanted to know.
                    Regards
                    Keith Hubert
                    Alpha Guild Member
                    London.
                    KHDB Management Systems
                    Skype = keith.hubert


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                      Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                      Thanks to all who replied.

                      Whilst not what I wanted to hear, it's good to know that the community is so responsive, and I'll know in future not to mention various states of undress, like Keith said - He has met me...

                      Paul

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                        Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                        a nice thing to remember about saving is that a Ctrl-S will save anything anywhere in Alpha as far as I know.

                        As for the auto save, I have used it reliably for years with forms. However, in field rules and reports it doesn't work reliably, and needs a ctrl-S or other manual save.

                        I may be missing a detail here, but all you have to do to see what a form will look like is save and go to view instead of design. As for different resolutions, I think you would need to change the resolution on your development machine.
                        Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
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                          Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                          Originally posted by martinwcole View Post
                          a nice thing to remember about saving is that a Ctrl-S will save anything anywhere in Alpha as far as I know.
                          +1

                          Start using Ctrl-S to save and pretty soon your problem may actually reverse itself; you may save something when you didn't want to.

                          Using Ctrl-S has become so second nature for me that I often do it without even thinking - especially when writing code because my hands are already on the keyboard. This means I have to be very careful when I want to start from one form, script, etc. and save the changes under a new name. In that case it's very important for me to save to the new name first - then start making the changes.

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                            Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                            Good point!! Also, using ctrl-s, crtl-a, ctrl-z, will wear out your keyboard faster - I run through at least 2 keyboards a year - buy them maybe 6 at a time.
                            Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                            972 524 8714
                            [email protected]

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                              Re: How to view forms in development mode naked...

                              Originally posted by martinwcole View Post
                              Good point!! Also, using ctrl-s, crtl-a, ctrl-z, will wear out your keyboard faster - I run through at least 2 keyboards a year - buy them maybe 6 at a time.
                              WHAT!? Either you are buying some really cheap keyboards or mine is extraordinarily good. The one I'm using is an old Gateway Anykey+. It's so old that it still has the large, 1/2 inch, round DIN connector on it. I'm not sure but I think this is the one that came with my old Gateway computer back in the late 80's or early 90's. It requires an adapter to use it with any of today's computers.

                              And I won't sell it unless you pay me enough so that I don't have to write code anymore. Every key on the keyboard can be quickly custom programmed to type just about anything and I use that feature a lot to save time.

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