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    Not available in the Runtime

    I have 2 databases that I am getting this error on. Does anyone have any ideas what the problem might be.
    They run fine with Version 9 runtime, but this error appears with Version 10.5
    The error is:
    "Not available in the Runtime"

    Mike Reed
    Phoenix, AZ

    Re: Not available in the Runtime

    In what context? I think we need some more detail.


      Re: Not available in the Runtime

      I'm not sure what you want, but basically I have 2 applications that have been developed starting back with Alpha Five version 5 with changes, etc along the way. Both have been working fine in both the Developer edition and the runtime editions of Alpha Five. Alpha Five version 10.5 runtime was installed on the computers in the network as an upgrade and now this error appears. One application has security and requires a password, the other does not. For the password protected one, the login dialog comes up, the password is entered and then error message appears. the dialog box is closed and the app seems to run fine. The other application is similar, the application will appear to load, then the error message appears with the control panel in the background, but when the dialog is closed, the application quits. The happens on both XP and Windows 7 computers.

      Mike Reed
      Phoenix, AZ


        Re: Not available in the Runtime

        Well, I don't have a lot of experience with the runtime 10.5 but I just checked one of my complex apps for problems like you describe using the runtime and have found none. Seems like you may have to put together a sample of the apps for either Alpha to look at (via a bug report) or for some of us here to look at. But it sounds like a problem for Selwyn to me.

        Raymond Lyons


          Re: Not available in the Runtime

          Mike, I agree with Raymond. That error message indicates that Alpha is being asked (by script or field rule) to do something that's not permitted with the run engine. i.e. open a form in design mode. You might study the startup sequences carefully to see if you can determine where this happening. Have you run debug on the startup sequences?


            Re: Not available in the Runtime

            In both of these applications I set the autoexec script to have the "end" command as the first line so that it would not run. When the app is run then it would simply open the control panel, no forms or anything else would open. The error continues.

            However, thank you Tom for a clue, because I went to the "database properties" tab in the developer version looking for something. I unchecked the box that says "Show the Web Projects Control Panel when this Database is opened" clicked ok and then opened the app with the runtime. Viola, no error. So that solved it. So the runtime sees that box checked and will error out.

            As far as submitting a bug, probably not. I have spent many hours submitting bugs over the the past few years, especially with version 10 which were fixed before release. That was good. In my last submission however it turned out bad, so no more submissions.

            Thanks Tom for the clue.
            Mike Reed
            Phoenix, AZ


              Re: Not available in the Runtime

              Thanks, Mike. That's good news.


                Re: Not available in the Runtime

                Just a stupid thought, but when I reinstalled an app in windows7 on a network I had to go back into the startup icon and set campatibility for XP under the icon properties. Then it ran properly.


                  Re: Not available in the Runtime

                  Where Microsoft is concerned, there is no such thing as a stupid thought.