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    Frame prints black when form printed

    Frame placed on form. Prints opaque and black. Have altered all properties I can find..no avail. Same behavior several printers.

    Form from alpha-sports... prints without problem.
    I am missing something very simple. What? Please advise.

    #2
    Re: Frame prints black when form printed

    A simple frame prints as expected.
    Problem applies only to styled frames, even with
    Fill accent color and color set to "" (nul)
    while style is set to Transparent.

    Anyone?

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      #3
      Re: Frame prints black when form printed

      Hi,
      A fellow user has the same problem--see here

      http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=90440

      I will restate that not enough information has been presented....unless I try other ways...but then they may not accommodate what you are trying to do. Soooo.....Have you tried embedding the form in a report?


      EDIT LATER: I just tried the simplest method with a standard frame as a "guess" as to how you have done it....prints fine: red, blue, etc . I will try styled frames now. Styled prints in color but no luck yet in increasing the border width...and the top edge is transparent.

      EDIT LATER, LATER: The line is very faint and thin but does print in color. Line thickness cannot be set even with Object Explorer (well it is but not honored!). This applies to all but the "Square" shape.

      I would not call this a bug, but a lack of feature really...(WishList Forum)
      Last edited by MikeC; 11-13-2010, 03:11 PM.
      Mike
      __________________________________________
      It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
      It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
      Henry David Thoreau
      __________________________________________



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        #4
        Re: Frame prints black when form printed

        I have many reports with "styled" frames - all printing ok - no problems
        Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
        972 524 8714
        [email protected]

        ____________________
        "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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          #5
          Re: Frame prints black when form printed

          Martin,
          This is not a report but a form that is printed....I have yet to hear back from either of the 2 users who have this similar issue as to whether they have tried embedding their form into a report to see if that works.
          Mike
          __________________________________________
          It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
          It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
          Henry David Thoreau
          __________________________________________



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            #6
            Re: Frame prints black when form printed

            ah so - doesn't say much for my attention to detail

            here is one printed from a report

            (I initially imported the form to the report, and then altered it a bit.)
            Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
            972 524 8714
            [email protected]

            ____________________
            "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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              #7
              Re: Frame prints black when form printed

              Martin,
              Will it also print in color? The pdf shows more of a grayscale....

              I just tried it and it has the same "issues" as I mentioned prior regarding the line being thin and faint when using anything but square....
              Mike
              __________________________________________
              It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
              It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
              Henry David Thoreau
              __________________________________________



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                #8
                Re: Frame prints black when form printed

                I don't print in color, as it eats up too much ink, and clients don't like - but will try in color to see what happens and report back
                Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                972 524 8714
                [email protected]

                ____________________
                "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                  #9
                  Re: Frame prints black when form printed

                  My problem persists when printing styled frame from form to color printer (prints a "steped" black.
                  A frame created within the report or letter prints normally.
                  I generated a letter and a report pasting a copy of the frame into each. Neither printed as previewed. That is both methods printed the frame as a solid or nearly solid (has "steps" or a small clear window upper left) black.
                  Last edited by Pagotas; 11-13-2010, 04:07 PM.

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                    #10
                    Re: Frame prints black when form printed

                    just checked, and mine IS printing in color
                    Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                    972 524 8714
                    [email protected]

                    ____________________
                    "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                      #11
                      Re: Frame prints black when form printed

                      Sorry, but I gotta throw this in.

                      My mantra for many, many, many years has been, "Reports are for printing; forms are for viewing."

                      I know, Alpha permits you to print forms but that doesn't mean that forms are optimized for printing. Sometimes it works out; sometimes it doesn't.

                      There are just way to many issues when trying to print forms. Since their prime purpose is viewing, there are a lot of report capabilities that just don't exist for forms. If I recall correctly, one common issue is getting a long form to page properly.

                      If you really want to view your "form", it is very easy to copy and paste the form into a report and then print the report.

                      I suspect this is why the styled frames don't show the correct colors when printed from forms. They were added "after the fact" (many, many years after the fact) and, since forms are basically intended for viewing, nobody took the time to see if they printed correctly and, if they did, they didn't think it was worth their time to fix it.

                      You can request a fix but I wouldn't count on it unless it's a very easy one.

                      Again, my solution for this type of thing has been and will remain, "Reports are for printing; forms are for viewing." I do it this way because it works better than forms, is much more versatile, and often takes less time in the long run. (Ask yourself how much time you've spent on this so far and how long it would have taken to make a 'look alike' report.)

                      A few other posts about this same basic issue all from different developers:
                      http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...76&postcount=4
                      http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...0&postcount=12
                      http://msgboard.alphasoftware.com/al...ad.php?t=83930
                      Last edited by CALocklin; 11-14-2010, 01:13 PM.

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                        #12
                        Re: Frame prints black when form printed

                        Thank you CALokin, as usual very well put. Thank you for the input and the insight.

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