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Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

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    Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

    Can the combined brains on this superb Forum help me with some ideas please?

    I have 1200 users each updating case records.
    There are 18 separate process within each case record which have to be completed in a specific order before a case is complete. The full case completion can take 12 months.
    At the end of each of the 18 processes a record is posted to a table in the format:
    Unique ID, Date, Time, Confirm. So each case record has up to 18 posted records. Some will be new, but others will be corrections or updates, so process 8 may be submitted 20 times.

    The Problem.
    The data has to be extracted from the post table and, according to certain rules, inserted into a different table. (The �insert� is through the host application UI to avoid licensing issues using keystroke macros into an Oracle database table. Can�t use ODBC).
    The rules dictate that the order in which the data is inserted into the different table (hence the date and time), is the same order it was received.

    I realise that a reverse index using the fields would present the data in the correct order however due to data volumes there will be 10 sessions running against the table and attempting to pick up data from the posted table and applying it to the Oracle table.

    So, Unique ID A1B23 might have processes 1,2,3,4,5 queued.
    Session 1 picks up process 1 and starts to update Oracle
    Session 2 picks up process 2 and tries to insert the data but the record is locked.

    Question 1. How could I handle multiple sessions picking up the correct piece of data and not trying to insert that data until the previous insert is complete and Committed.

    Question 2. Has anyone done any Robotics/ Screen Scraping with Alpha?
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    Re: Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

    Question 2. Has anyone done any Robotics/ Screen Scraping with Alpha?
    See the article on www.learn alpha.com.
    There can be only one.

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      Re: Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

      We've used a product called "Monarch" from a company called "Datawatch"
      http://www.datawatch.com/_products/monarch_pro.php
      Europe, Middle East & Africa
      * [email protected]
      * +44 (0) 1752 893100
      to scrape screens and create useful data for our Alpha Apps. Don't know if it would work the other way around

      Tom

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        #4
        Re: Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

        Why not export alpha table as a CSV file or something else that can be imported by Oracle?

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          Re: Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

          Thanks Stan and Tom.
          I read Peter's excellent document and will give it a go.
          I suspect where I might have difficulties is with the response from the target server when half way through a lookup before a commit.

          I've found a product which has a pretty sound UI and Workbench called AWIsx from NDL

          http://www.ndl.co.uk/

          I have run a Proof of Concept with it and I'm hoping that I can save time with it. The payback driver is �1000/day cost of staff, so the sooner the better.
          See our Hybrid Option here;
          https://hybridapps.example-software.com/


          Apologies to anyone I haven't managed to upset yet.
          You are held in a queue and I will get to you soon.

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            Re: Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

            Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
            Why not export alpha table as a CSV file or something else that can be imported by Oracle?
            If it was that easy I'd certainly have done it that way G.

            The license prevents direct writes to the database. All writes have to go through the Web services UI. It's a very large application and really locked down. Even reads are restricted to the Report Server instance.
            See our Hybrid Option here;
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              Re: Robotics, Macros, Screen Scraping and Multiple Concurrent Session (sob!)

              Originally posted by Stan Mathews View Post
              See the article on www.learn alpha.com.
              Thanks Stan, didn't know this even existed! (Must get out more)
              Ted
              See our Hybrid Option here;
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