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  • Numeric Fields Number Bug

    Hi All

    We have a strange problem with the numbers 105 and 84. Can you please try this simple test:

    1. Create a new table test dbf with three numeric fields 8.2.

    2. Open the default browse and enter the value 105 in each field then create a new record, go back to the fields and type in 84 and commit (only these values seem to create the bug, other values are okay).

    With all our tests the value be saved unless we enter another value.

    Can someone please explain this strange behaviour?

    The same seems to happen in V11.

    Michael

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    Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

    I see the same strange behavior in v12(build 3522 / 4647).

    -- tom

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    • #3
      Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

      I just tried it with v12.4 build 3550/4650.

      Same behavior.

      Tom

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      • #4
        Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

        Hi Tom

        Not just me then, if you do find a way to explain I would be grateful to hear from you.

        Michael

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        • #5
          Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

          Also strange that 105 - > 84 and 84 -> 105 doesn't work.

          But
          105 -> (any number other than 105 or 84 - or so it seems) -> 84 works...
          and
          84 -> (any number other than 105 or 84 - or so it seems) -> 105 works...

          The field rule OnEditField does fire and as I add more auditing to the onchange - cansave events of a form I see the values changing from what was entered to what was there.....


          Has some one submitted a bug report?
          Last edited by Al Buchholz; 06-08-2016, 12:15 PM.
          Al Buchholz
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          • #6
            Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

            I submitted a bug report earlier today. Cian has identified the source of the issue. Has to do with CRC values used internally to determine if a field value has actually changed. Turns out with this particular numeric specification, these two numbers generate the same CRC value so Alpha doesn't know it changed, and the commit does nothing.

            He's prepared a fix that moves away from using 32 bit CRC for this purpose and expects it to be in a prerelease shortly, for vers 12, of course.

            -- tom

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            • #7
              Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

              Originally posted by Tom Cone Jr View Post
              He's prepared a fix that moves away from using 32 bit CRC for this purpose and expects it to be in a prerelease shortly, for vers 12, of course.

              -- tom
              And is another reason I am leaving Alpha next year. No way would I pay $1,500+ for a bug fix that was their fault and been around at least 6 years, maybe longer.

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              • #8
                Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

                Preston, when you find the perfect development system please drop us a note to let us know where you've gone. Thanks.

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                • #9
                  Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

                  Originally posted by Tom Cone Jr View Post
                  Preston, when you find the perfect development system please drop us a note to let us know where you've gone. Thanks.
                  Tom, none of them are "Perfect" but I know where I am going and it is better. Will PM you.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

                    Desktop to me is still alpha. I have found none better, but that does not mean it won't change.

                    Web side is a different story altogether, but that may be more a matter of taste.
                    Dave Mason
                    dave@aldadesktop.com
                    Skype is dave.mason46

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                    • #11
                      Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

                      Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                      Desktop to me is still alpha. I have found none better, but that does not mean it won't change.
                      Did you know the v12 runtime checks your subscription status? That means they could, if they wanted, deactivate your v12 runtime once your subscription runs out. They do not do that now but they could down the road.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

                        Yes, of course I know. That has nothing to do with the capabilities that fit within my needs.
                        Dave Mason
                        dave@aldadesktop.com
                        Skype is dave.mason46

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                        • #13
                          Re: Numeric Fields Number Bug

                          Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                          Yes, of course I know. That has nothing to do with the capabilities that fit within my needs.
                          Did not say it had anything to do with fitting your needs. Just pointing it out.

                          For me Alpha just does not fit what I need for desktop or web anymore. But that is me.

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