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Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

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  • #16
    Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

    "I then sent the database to another computer, here in my office. But I sent it via GOTOASSIST. Unpacked the database. The AUTOEXEC WAS THERE !"

    What were you using before the GoToAssist test that worked? If another remote app service was used, could it be the culprit?

    I use SimpleHelp. An early version did not overwrite existing files on the target computer. It said it did, but it did not.

    Why are you zipping just 4 small files? Try just sending the files needed without the zipping, as I suggested above.

    How about using Google drive to move the files, without zipping or remote transfer touching them?

    Ted has a good question with what zip tool are you zipping with? I can see a zip tool on one end or the other fouling a file... Never happened to me before, but maybe the zip tool is infecting memo-like files?

    Is Larry's computer infecting the zip file, which seems unlikely with such a seasoned user. I would assume he has solid AV running?

    Larry, are you and I think Ted suggesting an antivirus surgically scraped out the just autoexec script? Are there other scripts in the library after the alleged removal, with just the autoexec disappearing?? Are they still there? Did the date modified on the alx, alm, or alb files change at the point it was removed? What is in the script that might trigger a heuristic false-positive? Are you calling out to an infected file with SYS_OPEN(), SYS_SHELL(), popups messages, or something?

    The sample you provided has the autoexec by me, as Tim also confirmed. I use McAfee AV.

    I'm sticking with the idea that the file isn't getting overwritten, or my (& some of Ted's) other ideas above. (I still find a Window's update unlikely as there would be a flurry of activity on the board, and my phone would be ringing like crazy with hundreds of callers.)

    Please be sure to post your solution. This is something of a puzzle, and I find it intriguing...


    • #17
      Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

      Lar, one way to test the zip/transfer/AV issue is to send the zipped app and see if ANY scripts get taken over.
      Try renaming Autoexe to something else and see what happens.
      Might narrow it down,
      Ted Giles
      Example Consulting - UK

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      • #18
        Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

        Larry, this may be obvious to everyone, but has not yet been confirmed in this thread.

        When you say the AUTOEXEC is missing on the remote client's machine you are saying you are not able to see it on the CODE page of the Control Panel in the client's Alpha desktop application, right?

        As I recall the AutoExec script is stored in the dictioniaries of the workspace itself, and is not a separate file on disk.

        I apologize in advance if this was already obvious. It occurred to me that later travellers who wander by this thread will be confused, so my purpose is to clarify.

        -- tom


        • #19
          Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

          SO... there's GOOD news and BAD news.

          I troubleshot this problem most of the night. Tried to put myself OUTSIDE the box. AUTOEXEC was here, on my laptop(s) and seemed to work just fine. I then ZIPPED after downloading a new PKZIP file. NO CHANGE. I zipped the app and uploaded. NO CHANGE. I then uploaded A5V12 and installed. When I ran, the AUTOEXEC file WAS THERE - on my customer's computer. I verified that the AUTOEXEC file was there - it was. Checked the Runtime once again - it was not there. So now, I have a paradox: on one computer but not the other. That's why I documented the screens in the attachment. But then - a lightbulb went off. What was that little flicker when the runtime fired up. It was the AUTOEXEC file running - on startup - just like it should. The AUTOEXEC file updates BREEDER and OWNER names - details are not important. So, I blanked out the next to the last horses Breeder and Owner names. Verified they were blank, exited the app, and restarted. The names had been updated by a startup script, AUTOEXEC, that clearly did now exists. I uninstalled the full development app and restarted the computer. Bottomline, it appears the app is OK now. I still do not understand why I could not see the AUTOEXEC startup routine.




          • #20
            Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

            If this is V12 (Alpha Anywhere) the 'code' tab is not visible in the runtime. Confirmed when looking at page 4 of your PDF


            • #21
              Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

              From above:

              4) Ted's theory about shadowed files has great merit. Just for kicks, try opening the runtime directly on the workstation from program files (x86) folder and navigate the app directory. You cannot see the code tab in the runtime, but does the script run? You may need to add a message box to know. (I know you said the workstation isn't shadowed, but his theory is in play here... you have to eliminate this possibility since it's really valid and the most likely reason.)

              It appears you were comparing the contents of the code tab to the contents of the operations tab if you look at pages 3 and 4 of your pdf. Can't say I haven't done similar things from time to time....

              Nice catch, Jon.


              • #22
                Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

                I don't have V12 RT, just V11. [I do have an old free V12 though]
                The Code Tab shows fine in V11, but you cannot edit any code. I was not aware that the Code tab was hidden in V12 RT. Apologies.
                Glad you got it working.

                Now, any tips for the UK Grand National?
                Ted Giles
                Example Consulting - UK

                See our site for Alpha Support, Conversion and Upgrade.


                • #23
                  Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

                  Originally posted by armasoft View Post
                  If this is V12 (Alpha Anywhere) the 'code' tab is not visible in the runtime. Confirmed when looking at page 4 of your PDF
                  If you right click on the tabs, can you turn on the code tab?
                  Al Buchholz
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                  • #24
                    Re: Where's the AUTOEXEC ???

                    Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
                    If you right click on the tabs, can you turn on the code tab?