Attention Desktop Developers

[forskare]

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HA HA HA!! I thought I was the only one.

[mronck]

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But then again, what value holds "having a fortune" in life at the end?

[Ted Giles]

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Pardon? A bit deep for me Marcel. Maybe it's the translation.
BTW, I have asked that my ashes go up in a rocket - it may take more than one as I'm not skinny. My end is sort of planned.

[mronck]

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So what we need to learn from this, would be that your ultimate wish is to get as far away from us as possible Ted? That's a tat disappointing.....

[forskare]

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But then again, what value holds "having a fortune" in life at the end?

I agree!

[Steve Wood]

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But then again, what value holds "having a fortune" in life at the end?

To pass it to your heirs.

[Ted Giles]

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This is getting maudlin - sorry.

[Steve Wood]

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FYI, Ramond and I (mostly Ray) have been consolidating ideas, requests and bug from this thread and other recent threads and have categorized and semi-prioritized the list. If you guys think it is the proper next step, I will put them into a poll for everyone to vote on, attempting again to prioritize. Sound good?

[JetLi]

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For any limitation of the desktop in alpha five, maybe we can try Visual Studio Lightswitch, very similar to the no code approach of alpha five and it has an intrinsic native database aside from connecting to other data sources. But I would still prefer to do the basic database apps in alpha five.

[Ray in Capetown]

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But then again, what value holds "having a fortune" in life at the end?

Until life is at the end I would like to have my fortune now please.

[mronck]

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You might have it, and not even know it although not material. You live in South Africa for crying outloud . Look around you.... there is your fortune. Ever been in Holland?

[Ray in Capetown]

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I did in my youth spend about 7 months, mostly in Hamster Dam
Love Holland
And I do appreciate Cape Town. It's really magical.

[DaveM]

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My daughter is getting married in may in a lighthouse somewhere over there. She is in Germany now and coming back here in August with her new hubby. NO, he is not a hard headed Dutchman. LOL

[SNusa]

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Wow, lots of contention on this thread. I just came back from Fl (visiting relatives) and am surprised as to where this thread has [also] ended up.... On vacation (having left my PC behind), I had come up with one very important fix for the desktop that has not been mentioned, and wanted to share it here: Fix the Xbasic coding GUI!

DESKTOP BUG-FIX SUGGESTION: The XBE frequently doesn't properly reflect usable object methods and properties. It also has numerous omissions along with old features that have been presumably removed, like some graphical support.) The other thing is auto-complete. The grave truth is, it doesn't work well! This becomes especially apparent when you try to address objects using relative object names. These names don't resolve properly. Because of this, an object's methods are not exposed to the user in the auto-complete drop-down.

I thought about this thread while I was away, and whether I would continue my pursuit. And unfortunately it seems to me that Alpha has lost focus on too many of the important issues, one being QUALITY CONTROL.

I'd also like to add that I spent time getting caught up on my numerous technology subscriptions, on my girlfriends tablet. (I don't own one.) One enlightening article reinforced a belief of mine (which I have always preconceived to be true). It brought me to the following conclusion: The future is definitely tablets and portable devices. But "off-line code" (native code for both businesses and consumers alike) will be sought after, due to connectivity issues (amongst other reasons.) The point here is that Alpha's current direction with regards to tablets & portable devices does not begin to address this. (As Alpha's solution is a web server/browser solution.) One related "eye-opener" (for me) here is that other development platforms have planned for this contingency: Environments, like Real Studio and even MS Dev-Studio provide "simplified" tablet & portable device support (native code development/deployment) to "multiple platforms." ~ And apparently (from my readings), this "multi-platform" support (for Windows devices) in MS Dev-Studio requires little more than changing one setting!?!?! As for the web side, other applications. such as Adobe DreamWeaver provide support for multiple device screen sizes with features that were referred to as being "almost magical" in nature!

I'd wager that: Once Windows based tablets (both RT & full Win-8+) gain momentum, native code support is going to
"bring back desktop desire." (Hopefully Alpha will be there too!)

Without trying to be overly critical: One deficiency that is apparent (to me) everywhere I look, regarding both (Alphasoftware & it's products) is: A lack of planning & organization. (IMHO, both their sales/marketing & code implementation reflects this problem "to a T".) ~ I'm not implying whatsoever that I could do a better job. But I honestly believe we are all paying for this one way or another. Adding features to an "aging a5 code-base has resulted in a "hodgepodge" of functionality that works, but is quirky in implementation. At some point, the "bolt-on approach" to adding features begins to create chaos. Unfortunately, I believe Alphasoftware crossed that boundary several versions back. And I believe they should have split the product at that point into 2 offerings. My guess is that based on company size and "human resources", this was not an option. On a side note: To report bugs only to hear back from the developer that some of the existing desktop C code-base is either too old to fix and/or add features, is not very assuring. (with regard to the desktop's future)

[SNusa]

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On a side note:

As for "Xdialog", implementing this technology via hand coding (to fix shortcomings elsewhere) defeats the purpose of a5. (which is foremost marketed as a "RAD" product) ~It may be a solution to many problems, but it's just not practical. (for most)