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    Is it really necessary to have a toolbar button that completely and unretrievably deletes the highlighted script next to a toolbar button that requires the script text to be highlighted in order to execute? With all that unused real estate, wouldn't it be prudent to separate these two. I just look at this as bad design. It also begs the question why this toolbar cannot be changed/edited as the the script editor toolbar can.
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    "The only thing needed for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - great quote but probably not Sir Edmund Burke
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    Re: interactive editor toolbar bad design

    In the code tab, right click on the whitespace, chose menu Customize System Menus/Toolbars - submenu Customize System Toolbars -

    make your own Toolbar starting with the system protected one.
    Al Buchholz
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      Re: interactive editor toolbar bad design

      Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
      In the code tab, right click on the whitespace, chose menu Customize System Menus/Toolbars - submenu Customize System Toolbars -
      make your own Toolbar starting with the system protected one.
      I'm not sure what "submenu Customize System Toolbars" is that you refer to. I don't see that in my list. I see all green dot toolbars and the blue dot control panel. I do not see one for the Interactive Editor. I believe I am in the right place. I have added several toolbar items to my Control Panel toolbar. I can't find access to IW toolbar.
      John Michaels
      "The only thing needed for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing" - great quote but probably not Sir Edmund Burke

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        Re: interactive editor toolbar bad design

        Originally posted by john michaels View Post
        Is it really necessary to have a toolbar button that completely and unretrievably deletes the highlighted script next to a toolbar button that requires the script text to be highlighted in order to execute? With all that unused real estate, wouldn't it be prudent to separate these two. I just look at this as bad design. It also begs the question why this toolbar cannot be changed/edited as the the script editor toolbar can.
        Mistakes happen wherever.
        BTW It doesn't remove highlighted script - clears from the cursor position down.
        Maybe don't use those, right click highlighted script and select run.
        Any way the interactive window is not where you keep valued code safe.

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          Re: interactive editor toolbar bad design

          I have to agree wholeheartedly. Bad design. Reminds me of the design in the 1950's of putting the switch that counteracts a jet fighter's flat spin central on the dash when the centripetal force of the spin strongly forces the hand needed to reach that switch away from center. A few pilots died before and Anthropologist studying the problem came up with the solution to put the switch to the far right on the console.

          Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
          BTW It doesn't remove highlighted script - clears from the cursor position down.
          No offense Ray, but in my hands, it deletes all but the first line.... and you can't retrieve it. So I don't believe your statement is correct.

          Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
          Maybe don't use those, right click highlighted script and select run.
          Any way the interactive window is not where you keep valued code safe.
          I use the IW often to run and test code. Sometimes it can get pretty in depth. I have slipped and hit that X button and lost code. Expletives always follow. I'd say that moving the button that runs the IW selected code more peripheral could save some pilots.

          Originally posted by Al Buchholz
          In the code tab, right click on the whitespace, chose menu Customize System Menus/Toolbars - submenu Customize System Toolbars -
          Al,
          I don't see in the toolbar editor (attached pic) a path to change the toolbar for the IW. Could you please guide us a little more. This is something I certainly wish I had, too.
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            Re: interactive editor toolbar bad design

            It doesn't look the the IW toolbar is designed to be modified.

            http://wiki.alphasoftware.com/~alpha...ystem+Toolbars

            Perhaps a suggestion to Selwyn is in order.
            Al Buchholz
            Bookwood Systems, LTD
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            "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
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              Re: interactive editor toolbar bad design

              Originally posted by john michaels View Post
              Is it really necessary to have a toolbar button that completely and unretrievably deletes the highlighted script next to a toolbar button that requires the script text to be highlighted in order to execute? With all that unused real estate, wouldn't it be prudent to separate these two. I just look at this as bad design.
              Kind of one of my pet peeves as well. From my Tips on what's really important to learn in Engineering 101 page

              Good User Interfaces - ...........
              Don't put a destructive button (e.g. erase/delete/record) button close to other commonly used controls (unless you have a confirm action)
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                Re: interactive editor toolbar bad design

                Originally posted by csda1 View Post
                Kind of one of my pet peeves as well.

                Good User Interfaces - ...........
                Don't put a destructive button (e.g. erase/delete/record) button close to other commonly used controls (unless you have a confirm action)
                Destructive menuitems deserve as much with or without the confirmation.
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