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ui_get_layout_name vs object_name_normalize

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  • ui_get_layout_name vs object_name_normalize

    I need to get the actual name of an open form as it appears in the control panel that also populates a field in another table for a lookup function:

    Ex 1: "Knit Order" (go away Cal...I have too many of these naming conventions to change now )

    With the form opened returns:

    Ex 2: "Knit_Order"

    I realize I could use object_name_normalize() to initially populate the field in the other table so that I can search for Ex 2 consistently. But I find it curious that a function like ui_get_layout_name() returns Ex 1 just as I would prefer - only I am not wanting the user interaction.

    Surely there is a way to do this, since some forms I have named with the underscore, but most I have not.

    What would the opposite of NOT getting the normalized name be????

    Also in the table where this value is to be found, I need to open that form using this field reference and the 'real' name is what the other script uses ( eg. Form.view("Knit Order")

    My application is for a help file that when referencing a form has a FORM_REF field which
    A5.form_enum() populates just like Ex 1. So now when the Knit Order form is opened, my help button looks up the form_ref name and finds its help topic ID.

    It sure sounded simple when I thought of it...
    Last edited by MoGrace; 05-26-2014, 11:14 PM.

    Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

  • #2
    Re: ui_get_layout_name vs object_name_normalize

    This sounds a lot more complex than using the built in help options Robin.
    I usually put the help topic in the Form Properties, and the ? Button opens it.
    Is it because you have so many forms and have created a UDF to handle the process?
    See our Hybrid Option here;

    In fairness to alcohol, I have done some stupid things when I was sober too!


    • #3
      Re: ui_get_layout_name vs object_name_normalize

      Robin, check the help file docs on the method. The optional parameter (1) may be what you're looking for.


      • #4
        Re: ui_get_layout_name vs object_name_normalize

        Thank you Tom I didn't see that parameter for the name method.

        Ted I tried the alpha help file and found it too limiting. If I get this UDF to work as I expect, it will make creating and editing the help file much easier. Adding the helpid field also allows me to link the help to to the table I use to create my XML Toolbox menu where some menu items are not form related.

        Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford


        • #5
          Re: ui_get_layout_name vs object_name_normalize

          what about a_form_current?
          I seems to returns the form name with or without underscores, to whatever it is in control panel.
          Mike W
          "I rebel in at least small things to express to the world that I have not completely surrendered"


          • #6
            Re: ui_get_layout_name vs object_name_normalize

            That's also an option I forgot about. But should suffice for this UDF

            Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford