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    Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

    I designed a form for my application which fitted the full screen of my Toshiba Laptop, and which when checked was 36.38 cm wide and 16.51 cm high - according to the properties panel. The Toshiba laptop has a 15.5 inch diagonal screen.

    However when this same database and form was installed with a second allowable copy of A5 on my desktop computer, suddenly approx 25% of the RH side is not viewable and off screen to the right. Why is this?? FYI the desktop screen is a standard and new 19.5 inch diagonal ACER proper computer monitor (not a TV screen).

    And changing the width and height properties of the form does not fix the problem, or "shrink in" the full desired form into a lesser width space.

    So the problem I now forsee is that when I want to transfer/update the data files between the two computers � and I will want to be doing that BOTH ways between the two computers via the A5 Backup/Restore function and via a USB stick - if I change/resize/redesign the form on one computer, then that form change will go with the respective copied database and data, but be wrong in terms of form view and size when viewed and copied onto the second computer.

    That is, if I leave the form �as is� on the laptop and copy to the desktop, then the form will be too wide on the desktop. Conversely, if I shrink the form to fit on the desktop and copy to the laptop, then the form will be too narrow on the laptop.

    Given this problem seems peculiar to A5 when viewed on the desktop, (that is there is no problem with any other program I have on the desktop such as MS Word, Explorer/Internet etc etc, and they all view the same on both computers), then as far as I can see the problem is within A5, and not either computer as such.

    Can anybody suggest a solution???

    Many thanks
    adcooke

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    Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

    Alpha desktop has always had a limitation in that it does not resize.

    Question about your monitor settings for the new monitor? there is a width setting on your monitor is it properly set to the edges of the screen? I have seen this be an issue before.
    Dave Mason
    [email protected]
    Skype is dave.mason46

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      #3
      Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

      Hi Dave,

      Thanks you for your reply. Yes monitor width stings ok. The form is missing about 3-4 cm on the RHS - quite a lot to readjust for. So are you saying there's nothing I can do about this, as it is a limit or "bug" within A5 ??

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        #4
        Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

        It is not a bug, just call it a mild restriction

        There are some ways around it, but difficult.

        For instance:
        I build my apps on a huge monitor and quickly open them from 2 other computers(laptop and a desktop) with what would be current standards for most users. That determines the size of my forms.

        Another way is to build a form to match several different resolutions and monitors like a user may have. Then you can select which forms(s) to use at the beginning. Some have even detected the resolution on app start and then chosen the form(s) for the user from that. It can be done, but you wind up with 3-4 of the same forms in different sizes. That can be a headache to keep up with if you do many changes to the apps.

        Current app is set to be useable on my laptop at 1280 X 768. It is a brand new unit, but that is the upper limit of the settings. On my work machine at 1920 X 1080, the form takes up a smaller amount of space. For this app that is going to a place where some of the users are still trying to keep 800 X 600, they will just have to adjust their settings to be able to see it all. I am not getting paid enough to design a bunch of extra forms. They need to move on up in the world. I am designing to fit their (mostly) 19" diagonal monitors and then dropped smaller due to some having laptops. ( I know they are in process of upgrading all their 40 computers).
        Dave Mason
        [email protected]
        Skype is dave.mason46

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          #5
          Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

          Thanks Dave, very helpful. Nice of Alpha though to make this so difficult.

          As I'll only ever be using the two computers, I'll have a go at your solution of having two forms - one for each computer - then select on start-up as required. Like you say though, it is a pain.

          Many thanks
          adcooke

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            #6
            Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

            You could design forms for the smaller screen that are not maximized, ie windowed, and use the anchors to move objects right or left, up or down, when the form is resized by the user.
            Robin

            Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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              #7
              Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

              It can entail some coding in the autoexec to make it automatic, or just choose from a main menu for.

              You might have a thought of changing the resolution of the screens instead??

              Just thoughts.
              Dave Mason
              [email protected]
              Skype is dave.mason46

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                #8
                Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                Originally posted by DaveM View Post
                You might have a thought of changing the resolution of the screens instead??
                .
                Exactly!
                They are both your own Adcooke
                When developing for clients give the advantage for those with high res screens that they can use the extra space for other things. Make some of your elements (like browses, control buttons, diagrams, status screens) modeless, the user benefits enormously.
                Many power users work across 2 screens anyway.

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                  #9
                  Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                  Thanks Robin

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                    #10
                    Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                    Thanks again David. I have now two copies of the same form, except one wide, one narrower, and for now will select manually as needed. Prefer to not change resolution.

                    But redoing the autoexec to automatically sense & choose was going to be my next thought, but could be fun. Any thoughts on the coding required ???

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                      #11
                      Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                      Thanks Ray

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                        #12
                        Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                        I never did it, but there have been a couple of posts in the forum with at least a bit of help on the coding needed.
                        Dave Mason
                        [email protected]
                        Skype is dave.mason46

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                          #13
                          Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                          I think you'll find what you are looking for here:

                          http://www.learn alpha.com/AlphaTips...creenSizes.htm

                          I used this approach on an application several years ago and it worked well.



                          Originally posted by adcooke View Post
                          Thanks again David. I have now two copies of the same form, except one wide, one narrower, and for now will select manually as needed. Prefer to not change resolution.

                          But redoing the autoexec to automatically sense & choose was going to be my next thought, but could be fun. Any thoughts on the coding required ???

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                            #14
                            Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                            Thanks Tim,
                            I had seen that earlier and was looking for it.
                            Dave Mason
                            [email protected]
                            Skype is dave.mason46

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                              #15
                              Re: Form change when copying from one computer to a second computer

                              Thanks you Tim and Dave --- and Jack Wheeler of it works!!

                              I'm not great with scripting coding etc, but will give it a good go.

                              Many thanks for your generous help. I'll let you know how it goes in a week or so.

                              adcooke

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