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  • Robin Henagulph
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    Thanks again, Robin

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  • DaveM
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    Robin,
    either version will run on xp3, win7 and win8.1.

    By the way, windows 8 was used to update one of xp3 computers so I have the newest version of windows for testing. MS gives you the option to test both your hardware and software so you know what will/won't work after the upgrade.

    I have eliminated all except win7 and win 8.1 computers at this point. It was actually less money to go win8.1 than win7 when I did the last one. You will also be able to take advantage of the free(for the 1st year) win10 when it comes out in a few months.

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  • Robin Henagulph
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    Dave, my next question would be will A11/12 run on XPs/W7. The Alpha shop options are very confusing and short on such details. When I started with A4 (which I still use on an XP lap top) one just bought it and ran it...Thanks (Mr) Robin.

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  • DaveM
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    Robin,

    As said before(I think), download the 30 day trial of a5v12. Make a copy of the application in a separate folder. Run it with v12 trial and see how it does. If you try it all and it works, you are home free.

    If it runs with v12, it will run with v11, I think. Then you know it is just a matter of choosing v11 or v12.

    I am strong on v12 because of bug fixes that were done after v11 and possible other ones coming and the relatively small price for the jump.

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  • Robin Henagulph
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    Thanks again Mo; I am actually a mister, last time I looked! :-)

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  • Robin Henagulph
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    Thanks Ronald; tried Microsoft virtual but the CPU was not compatible. Will look at other VM options...

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  • Robin Henagulph
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    Thanks Craig; no custom toolbars, no scripts - just 'kept it simple stupid'

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  • Robin Henagulph
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    Thanks Stan

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  • Robin Henagulph
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    Thanks MoGrace; I just put KISS to 'Keep It Simple Stupid' which is what I did...

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  • MoGrace
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    Actually Dave you agree with Ron not me. If the desktop has no future with Alpha, why not save your money and run with v11? OTOH, if you want SQL compatibilty and future web or mobile capabilities, by all means go with v12. But whether v11 or 12, Robin still needs to copy her app and dump her data as the first step. And especially if she wants some help from here.

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  • DaveM
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    I agree with Robin about v12 instead of v11.

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  • Ronald Anusiewicz
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    Robin,

    My first thought would be running the application under the different windows compatibility modes. This may or may not work. If you need to move to version 11 or 12 and run into trouble, there is one other avenue still available. Look at Oracle VM VirtualBox. You create a virtual machine running whatever operating system you want with file sharing and networking. I have some older software applications which will only run on Windows XP 32-bit. So I use VirtualBox.

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  • CraigSchumacker
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    That's true! If your original developer used action scripts, those will all need to be re-done. I never used the script genie, so I never had the issue of updating.

    But....

    I did create custom toolbars, and if your developer also did, those need to be re-made.

    Listen, it may not be easy, but it will be easier than the update from version 1.1 to version 4.5 was years ago. That was almost a complete re-write. Back then, the whole program was re-written and XBasic was, too!

    One last opinion, if you don't mind. And this opinion may be more mine than others.

    By moving to 11, and not 12, you are starting with a foot in the grave, so-to-speak. Not that 12 offers much, if anything, more, there were unresolved bugs in 11, and 12 stands a better chance of running on Windows 10 and above. Others will have different thoughts on that, but if you have 6 users, and the app is doing what a good app is supposed to do by saving you time, money, stress, and frustration, the additional investment into the future may be in play.

    Regardless, good luck and try to have some fun in the update. It may be a good time to smooth out any rough spots that irritate you where the direction of your business has veered from the path the original app was built to serve.
    Last edited by CraigSchumacker; 01-30-2015, 05:23 AM. Reason: Spelling

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  • MoGrace
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    Hi Robin,
    Great name btw! I would think your first step would be to copy the app to a new directory and empty the tables of live data. Add one or two dummy records and be sure everything works correctly, and then you can let us look at your set up. Personally I think coverting the old action scripts is the biggest PIA, but it will be hard to give much advice until we know what you have.

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  • CraigSchumacker
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    Re: Upgrade from A5V4 KISS

    Also, card stacks were eliminated in favor of just using forms...

    Besides that array issue with [brackets], and the lack of card stacks, your changeover will be easy. There may be, if I remember, a few small issues, but they are quick fixes.

    Be aware that there are THOUSANDS of enhancements that can and will make the application faster and better. Just a quick one of the top of my head is that forms look so much better, as do buttons, with gradients.

    Oh, one other thing - there was something different in how Alpha sees marked and deleted records. It's been a while, but something sticks in my head about that.

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