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    #16
    Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

    Thanks for all the responses. I have been side tracked on a couple of newly emerged more mission critical issues, so I have had to put this on the back burner. I will return to developing this when the dust settles. Thanks again.
    Mike W
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      #17
      Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

      I have a similar requiremnt - with stricter requirements for a small data server linked to desktop app. Of two options I'm exploring, one is in line with Al's suggestion.Im not sure how long this will take but will report back whatever result .

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        #18
        Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

        Here is another option. More slowly built, but a possibility.
        http://fabrikar.com/
        build a database and an upload from csv that alpha does a good job for.
        I will be doing this shortly for a couple of sites using Joomla which it is built for.
        Dave Mason
        [email protected]
        Skype is dave.mason46

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          #19
          Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

          Here is a page on a Wordpress site - I used TablePress (that Al had suggested, it turns out)
          I tried coding Data Storage to do capture into a grid instead of a form because it has submit and email functionality.. PHP not easy to jump into.
          Once you get a page set up, to update I used a CSV created in Alpha and then Upload in Wordpress. Just plonked it there , I have done no further work on it.
          It took me a while to learn the wordpress basics but I now did the whole thing including installation, <15minutes.
          http://m2oproject.co.za/supplier-login/
          I think Daves suggestion is what I will look at using for myself.

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            #20
            Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

            Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
            Once you get a page set up, to update I used a CSV created in Alpha and then Upload in Wordpress. Just plonked it there , I have done no further work on it.
            It took me a while to learn the wordpress basics but I now did the whole thing including installation, <15minutes.
            To update the data from Alpha, you should be able to have Alpha generate the CSV and then Alpha can FTP to the location that WordPress sees the CSV. TablePress then refreshs it's internal structure based on noticing that the CSV has changed.

            The search, filtering, and formatting of TablePress are simple but powerful.
            Al Buchholz
            Bookwood Systems, LTD
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              #21
              Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

              Originally posted by Al Buchholz View Post
              To update the data from Alpha, you should be able to have Alpha generate the CSV and then Alpha can FTP to the location that WordPress sees the CSV. TablePress then refreshs it's internal structure based on noticing that the CSV has changed..
              Unfortunately that is not the case. The data is uploaded (not the CSV, or HTML file itself) and stored in JSON format. TablePress uses the DataTables JavaScript library (a jQuery plugin) , written by Allan Jardine. It is a separate product.

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                #22
                Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                Originally posted by Ray in Capetown View Post
                Unfortunately that is not the case. The data is uploaded (not the CSV, or HTML file itself) and stored in JSON format. TablePress uses the DataTables JavaScript library (a jQuery plugin) , written by Allan Jardine. It is a separate product.
                Could of sworn it did. You can upload or point to a file location on the wp site also. Maybe that's the way it knows the file has changed.
                Al Buchholz
                Bookwood Systems, LTD
                Weekly QReportBuilder Webinars Thursday 1 pm CST

                Occam's Razor - KISS
                Normalize till it hurts - De-normalize till it works.
                Advice offered and questions asked in the spirit of learning how to fish is better than someone giving you a fish.
                When we triage a problem it is much easier to read sample systems than to read a mind.
                "Make it as simple as possible, but not simpler."
                Albert Einstein

                http://www.iadn.com/images/media/iadn_member.png

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                  #23
                  Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                  I will log a query with the author and see if there is a way with a WP site.
                  It may be better going forward to set up an operational site with Joomla and have this under own program control.
                  DaveM has has had some experience, offered to help. I'll get a cheap domain and check it out. It would be nice to have seamless integration with DT.
                  In my case I also have to send submissions back. Can be done from WP backend but clumsy.
                  Last edited by Ray in Capetown; 03-11-2016, 02:39 AM.

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                    #24
                    Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                    With most(yours may be different), submissions I get, I have the option to have it also sent back to the submitter. I reject that since it could be used for spam.

                    Depends on what you are calling a submittal I guess.

                    I do not understand why you cant send a web page from alpha via ftp to a folder on your website and have WP or other open it for a client? NO csv file needed.
                    Dave Mason
                    [email protected]
                    Skype is dave.mason46

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                      #25
                      Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                      ray

                      i have been following this thread, but unable to understand what exactly you want to do. ( since what is in the title of this thread is not what you want to do)
                      you want full fledged website, somehow alpha desktop has to integrate with it and the data has to pass between these two.
                      in other words what would have been a reality in with alpha webserver, you want without it. is that correct? wordpress or joomla both mysql & php based cms systems are being tested to that end, correct?
                      thanks for reading

                      gandhi

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                        #26
                        Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                        It actually does not have to be either WP or joomla to do what I originally said. It can be any website on any platform.
                        Creating a report in alpha and prining as a html file is easy as pie and put whatever you need in the report. Then ftp to where you need it and open it. You can do that from a path or from a menu button or a button on some form somewhere in your site. Alpha website app is fine.
                        Be mindful the joomla can be used on windows servers as well as Linux. Best to use a site where you have php and mysql for the joomla cms. It is real tricky with mssql.
                        Dave Mason
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                        Skype is dave.mason46

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                          #27
                          Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                          Ok. So in a nutshell
                          To have return communication + automated data updating from Alpha requires more than a straightforward web page, for either WPress or Joomla.
                          It is simple if the data is imported from WPress. For my own personal purpose that would work for demo purposes. I have that working.

                          The exploration here has gone a little further, and quite useful for discussion and ideas.

                          There is a WP addon, Data storage that sends submitted info from visitors as csv - but only allows the entry via a form, not table grid view and enter.
                          To simply do that and have to get a server with PHP and SQL might as well develop a fully functional website.

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                            #28
                            Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                            With WPress the data can exist in Json. Thats how the addons seem to work.

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                              #29
                              Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                              To simply do that and have to get a server with PHP and SQL might as well develop a fully functional website.
                              that will be the right way to do.
                              you can build it in with apache, mysql, php and deploy in your own computer or via cheap isp. the mysql table may be updated from alpha without any problem.
                              i know you said something about php being difficult. if you can master alpha with practically non-existing documentation you can do very well with php with world of documentation and help sites.
                              if you do not need visitors to your site depositing data back and you just want to display data from your alpha dbf tables, ( i assume that since you are a long term alpha desktop user), then you don't need to create report etc. then ftp them, you can very well fashion html file from alpha and display via apache server without any problem. data from-to mysql is not the problem talking back to alpha is. (meaning synchronization.)
                              that will need more work without alpha webserver. but not unsurmountable.
                              i wonder if version 11 web server might deploy version 12 dbf tables. if it could, it may be a cheap alternative than learning new set of languages.
                              thanks for reading

                              gandhi

                              version 11 3381 - 4096
                              mysql backend
                              http://www.alphawebprogramming.blogspot.com
                              [email protected]
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                                #30
                                Re: desktop data viewed on web based viewing

                                Depending on the hosting account for the website, you can have a Alpha DT app remote connect to a MySql db on the web.

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