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  • Alpha version conflict???

    I have an upset beta tester on my hands. Help!!

    He has been using A5V10 for some time and now, when he installs my application which is A5V11 based, he sees

    1. an indication that files are being removed from his system.

    This is something I do not see when I do an install on my laptop which is running no other A5 versions.

    2. He gets the following error when trying to open any of his A5V10 OR A5V11 based applications.
    ?Cannot open Ole a5contexteval.contexteval11???

    This is the third time in a row that he has had to rebuild his system.

    My application is a single EXE install with the A5V11 files in a sub-directory. The path is C:\[application name]\system\A5v11\...

    Is this a problem?

    Will A5V10 based applications run on A5V11?

    Does Alpha removed older versions of A5 when installing an updated version?

    Do I need to inform any potential users that their older version(s) of Alpha and potentially any of their existing applications may stop working if they install my application?
    THAT WOULD BE A SHOW STOPPER FOR ME AND ANYONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    PLEASE HELP!

    Gene

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    Re: Alpha version conflict???

    There is no conflict between v10 & v11. I have both and more running at the same time on my machine w/o any conflict. It's not an issue. Alpha doesn't remove, (nor need to) the previous version on a new install. Not sure why your user is having a problem. But when you say "My application is a single EXE install with the A5V11 files in a sub-directory" if that works on your machine I suppose it's okay, but generally I would let Alpha install in the C:\Program Files (x86) folder and put the data files somewhere else. You need to investigate. I suspect your install routine is faulty.
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

    Peter@AlphaBaseSolutions.com
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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    • #3
      Re: Alpha version conflict???

      Gene, let me add that while many A5v10 based applications will run under A5v11, in a business environment the better practice is to use the runtime corresponding to the version that built the app. Same version, and same build within that version. -- tom

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      • #4
        Re: Alpha version conflict???

        ?Cannot open Ole a5contexteval.contexteval11???
        are you sure he has installed the application and v12 runtime as an administrator?


        I have one client running v7, v10 and v12 apps on the same computer(lan) at the same time foe diff reasons, so I am sure there is not a real conflict. I have v7, v8 v10.5, v11 and v12 running here on the same computer.
        Dave Mason
        dave@aldadesktop.com
        Skype is dave.mason46

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        • #5
          Re: Alpha version conflict???

          He has been using A5V10 for some time and now, when he installs my application which is A5V11 based, he sees Runtime or Developer?

          1. an indication that files are being removed from his system. See comments below.

          This is something I do not see when I do an install on my laptop which is running no other A5 versions.

          2. He gets the following error when trying to open any of his A5V10 OR A5V11 based applications. I have seen this on some Win 7 Machines if using the "Run as Administrator" to register theses files.
          ?Cannot open Ole a5contexteval.contexteval11???

          This is the third time in a row that he has had to rebuild his system.

          My application is a single EXE install with the A5V11 files in a sub-directory. The path is C:\[application name]\system\A5v11\... What are you using to make the exe installer?

          Is this a problem?

          Will A5V10 based applications run on A5V11? Yes.

          Does Alpha removed older versions of A5 when installing an updated version? No but on some Win 7 machines the OS will unregister some of the A5 prior version files, rare but can happen. There a solution though.

          Do I need to inform any potential users that their older version(s) of Alpha and potentially any of their existing applications may stop working if they install my application?
          THAT WOULD BE A SHOW STOPPER FOR ME AND ANYONE ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          PLEASE HELP!

          Gene
          Ok, If the beta tester is using the V10.5 runtime then there is no reason his V10.5 app cannot run under the V11 runtime. To my knowledge, V11 did not remove any V10.5 functions.

          As for your installer removing some of his files. This can only happen if your installer is installing files in the same location as some of his other files and you have told your installer to overwrite the files. So it does not actually remove any but just overwrites them.

          As for registering the required ocx and dll file, I have my installer do that and set the flag for "do not unregister". This eliminates the need to run the app at least once to register those files.



          My other suggestion is both of you download Teamviewer. With this you can connect to his computer remotely and see what is going on when he installs your app.

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          • #6
            Re: Alpha version conflict???

            One/Some were missing in a bat file I got and I don't remember which version. Adjust as you need.
            regsvr32 /s c:\alda12\Codejock.PropertyGrid.v11.1.3.ocx
            regsvr32 /s c:\alda12\Codejock.ReportControl.v11.1.3.ocx
            regsvr32 /s c:\alda12\Codejock.SuiteCtrls.v11.1.3.ocx
            regsvr32 /s c:\alda12\Codejock.TaskPanel.v11.1.3.ocx
            regsvr32 /s c:\alda12\a5controlsproxy.dll
            regsvr32 /s c:\alda12\a5contextevalproxy.dll
            regsvr32 /s c:\alda12\XBasicActiveScriptingproxy.dll
            Preston is showing the same, but your bat file may be missing the one for this. a5contexteval.contexteval11
            The /s means to run silent
            c:\alda12 was necessary in this particular install or I can run them from my installer(normally do).
            Dave Mason
            dave@aldadesktop.com
            Skype is dave.mason46

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            • #7
              Re: Alpha version conflict???

              He has been using A5V10 for some time and now, when he installs my application which is A5V11 based, he sees Runtime or Developer? I DO NOT KNOW.

              1. an indication that files are being removed from his system. See comments below.

              This is something I do not see when I do an install on my laptop which is running no other A5 versions.

              2. He gets the following error when trying to open any of his A5V10 OR A5V11 based applications. I have seen this on some Win 7 Machines if using the "Run as Administrator" to register theses files.
              ?Cannot open Ole a5contexteval.contexteval11???

              This is the third time in a row that he has had to rebuild his system.

              My application is a single EXE install with the A5V11 files in a sub-directory. The path is C:\[application name]\system\A5v11\...

              What are you using to make the exe installer?

              I RUN A5V11_RUNTIMESETUP ON MY MACHINE AND HAVE IT INSTALL INTO MY APPLICATION DIRECTORY. THEN WHEN I CREATE A BUILD I GRAB ALL DIRECTORIES AND SUB-DIRECTORIES.
              IS THIS A PROBLEM??

              Is this a problem?

              Will A5V10 based applications run on A5V11? Yes.

              Does Alpha removed older versions of A5 when installing an updated version? No but on some Win 7 machines the OS will unregister some of the A5 prior version files, rare but can happen. There a solution though.

              THANKS PRESTON

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              • #8
                Re: Alpha version conflict???

                Dave,

                Would you say it is possible that installing on a laptop with Windows 7 an having no issues on one hand and installing on machine B, using the same OS on the other and having problems, could be an installer issue?

                Gene

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                • #9
                  Re: Alpha version conflict???

                  As long as installing v11 and going forward with the app built on the same build as the runtime, there should be no issue.

                  I recently installed on a win10 machine and got the same error every time the app started. It still ran, but always had the error. After looking at the batch file, I got the answer.

                  Sounds like it was either installed and not being the administrator or missing line in the bat file.

                  Probably not an installer issue per se. Kind of depends on the installer too.
                  Dave Mason
                  dave@aldadesktop.com
                  Skype is dave.mason46

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                  • #10
                    Re: Alpha version conflict???

                    Is he running on a Win 10 system? Because there has been an issue regarding missing files. I have only had Win 10 3 days and it has happened to me. NOT an Alpha file, but after installing a couple of program files I downloaded, they disappeared.

                    Ok, went back and saw you said it was Win 7 - still might be good to know...
                    Last edited by MoGrace; 04-27-2016, 12:55 AM.
                    Robin

                    Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                    • #11
                      Re: Alpha version conflict???

                      Gene. Perceived wisdom is to never have a different version between the Build and the Application.
                      I've been bitten by this a good while back.
                      If you client is running version 12345 of V10 you need to create the build using RTV10 version 12345 or you will get errors.
                      Suggest you rebuild based on client's version and build number and rery.
                      Running a V11 build in a V10 environment ain't gonna work.
                      Running a V10 app with a V11 developer installition will work.
                      It's all about the Build.
                      See our Hybrid Option here;
                      https://hybridapps.example-software.com/

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