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    #16
    Re: Error Locking

    Yes, I tried both. Something is corrupt either in the Data Dictionary or the CDX file. Just not sure which, or why..... At least I think that may be where the problem lies......

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      #17
      Re: Error Locking

      Something else I just noticed..... When I moved some of the older records to reduce the overall size of the table, that worked fine, but I also have one memo field contained within the table for comments. This file, which is the ".FPT" table is still over 2 gigs. It did not reduce when I moved the files. This could also be a part of the problem I would think if tables can't be over 2gigs.

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        #18
        Re: Error Locking

        So, I appended all the records to a new table without field rules or indexes. I recreated the indexes and then renamed my original table to another name. I then renamed the new table to the old name of the original table. Got everything working except a "comments" field which is a memo field. When I try and save something to it, it gets the "error locking" message. There is something definitely wrong with the fpt file. Is there any way to fix an fpt table? I don't want to lose it because it has comments on the older files, but something has corrupted it I'm afraid. Is there any way to recreate the FPT file again? I would assume it's not as simple as deleting it and work compacting the db. Any thought are appreciated. Leaving for the day now but will be back in tomorrow morning around 10 PST. Thanks guys.

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          #19
          Re: Error Locking

          Originally posted by draxx2755 View Post
          Something else I just noticed..... When I moved some of the older records to reduce the overall size of the table, that worked fine, but I also have one memo field contained within the table for comments. This file, which is the ".FPT" table is still over 2 gigs. It did not reduce when I moved the files. This could also be a part of the problem I would think if tables can't be over 2gigs.
          What is your latest backup where the .fpt file is much smaller?

          You may need to go back to that for the memos.
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            #20
            Re: Error Locking

            corrupted memo file has stopped most of us at one time or another.
            It is usually time consuming to figure out which record in the memo is the problem.
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              #21
              Re: Error Locking

              There have been many threads dealing with corrupt memo files. You might try

              <TBL>.MEMO_CHECK()
              There can be only one.

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                #22
                Re: Error Locking

                Stan got it first. I was looking it up LOL
                Dave Mason
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                  #23
                  Re: Error Locking

                  Hey guys I'm pretty sure that's the problem and I have dealt with it in the past I'm afraid. I ran the repair memo fields utility but it said all was well. As far as going back to a time when the FPT file was smaller, that would take me too far back and too much info would be lost. What I'm doing today is recreating the database. I've done it before, not much fun but it worked when I was done...lol. I just wish I knew what triggered this whole mess. Thanks for all the input though guys it is much appreciated.

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                    #24
                    Re: Error Locking

                    OK so what I did..... I duplicated my main table without records, indexes or anything else, into a new folder. Then I exported all the records to a csv file and imported them back into my new table. After that, I duplicated all other needed tables from the old db with records, indexes, etc.into the new db. I then copied all scripts from the old db into the new one. All seems to be working well now. The only thing I have left is to rewrite the field rules in the new main table. None of the old field rules were equation based. After looking at all of them in the old db, I saw they were all just simple lookups based on a list. So hopefully all will be working when my staff comes in Monday morning. I wish there was a utility that printed all field rules into a list. That would make things much easier. Thanks again for all the help guys, it is very much appreciated.

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                      #25
                      Re: Error Locking

                      I wish there was a utility that printed all field rules into a list.
                      Two exist. A5Doc and AIMS App Analyzer.
                      There can be only one.

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                        #26
                        Re: Error Locking

                        Have you tried copying just the memo field and a record id to a new table? Then you can remove the memo field from the main table and link to the new memo table in a set. Or you can pop up the linked memo record for editing - in which case it needn't be part of a set.
                        Robin

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                          #27
                          Re: Error Locking

                          I think Robin has a good test solution.
                          Memo fields are a good but PITA when they get corrupt.
                          Copying that much data out into a new Table ( don't forget Mr Backup) may isolate the problem
                          I think a good few of us normalise memo fields separated from the working tables. Easier to back up.
                          Suggest you send the memo data and source ID to an Excel or CSV so you can get it back if it goes wahoonie.
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                            #28
                            Re: Error Locking

                            wahoonie? Is that olde English?

                            Perhaps when he tries to export the data we will find out if the memo field is RTF, HTML or regular...
                            Robin

                            Discernment is not needed in things that differ, but in those things that appear to be the same. - Miles Sanford

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                              #29
                              Re: Error Locking

                              The memo field was the standard fpt table A5 creates. I like the idea of sending the memo date to an Excel or CSV file before it goes "wahoonie". I've more or less completed rebuilding the db now. Actually, I moved some 40,000 older records prior to exporting my main table data which helped with the size of the file in general. After exporting the data, and then importing the data into the new table, and then packing it, it recreated the fpt file and it is now at it's normal size. After that, it was just a matter of duplicating tables with records, indexes, etc to my new folder and then copying operations and code (scripts and functions) to the new folder. It now looks as if all is well. My larger concern is what actually caused it to go "wahoonie" in the first place. Probably will never know.

                              Oh, and I forgot about A5Doc, thanks for the reminder. What I did do though was to copy and paste all field rules to a notepad file and then just copy and paste back into the appropriate fields. Faster then manually retyping all...lol, especially at my typing speed. Thanks again for all the input.

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                                #30
                                Re: Error Locking

                                One sure way to cause a memo field to corrupt is to get it out of synch with the dbf.
                                copy the fpt file out - add a few records to the old ftp/dbf and then copy the fpt back to the folder and overwrite the original one. 75% chance of corruption. Same with doing that with the dbf file.

                                Just in case someone did not know.

                                ftp files and dbf files need to be thought of as inseparable.
                                Dave Mason
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