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  • Alan Lee
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    That section hasn't been changed in forever, I'm sure. But if there is going to be a radical change in runtime licensing, it would probably be a good idea to get that changed ASAP.

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  • MikeC
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Andrea, :)

    This time, I have to disagree with you regarding
    Unlimited RTs were never available in V8
    From the version 8 documentation---NOT the help file

    (broken link removed)
    Alpha Five Version 8 Runtime Licensing
    The Alpha Five Version 8 runtimes allow for unlimited distribution per application or an unlimited number of installs per site.
    Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 05-24-2023, 12:34 PM. Reason: (broken link removed)

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  • Alan Lee
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
    We never doubted your word,

    Sure you didn't! :p

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  • NoeticCC
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    Originally posted by Peter.Greulich View Post
    We never doubted your word, only your interpretation. I bet they will change that.
    Didn't it take over a year for the V8 changes to be fully added to the help file? THen maybe in 2010 the full help file for Platinum will be availavle ;)

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  • NoeticCC
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Originally posted by Alan Lee View Post
    I copied and pasted that straight from the V9 help file. Whether or not it is valid, I can not say. The wording was never changed from V8 to V9 was my only point.

    Follow the link provided on the post concerning help file down load and see for you selves.

    I promise I did not make it up.:D
    I believe you but I know the help file text is simply not updated as quickly and fully as some stuff on the website...

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  • Peter.Greulich
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    Originally posted by Alan Lee View Post
    Follow the link provided on the post concerning help file down load and see for you selves.

    I promise I did not make it up.:D
    We never doubted your word, only your interpretation. I bet they will change that.

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  • Alan Lee
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    I copied and pasted that straight from the V9 help file. Whether or not it is valid, I can not say. The wording was never changed from V8 to V9 was my only point.

    Follow the link provided on the post concerning help file down load and see for you selves.

    I promise I did not make it up.:D

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  • NoeticCC
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Originally posted by Alan Lee View Post
    I just downloaded the V9 help file. From the section titled

    Alpha Five Runtime


    Distributing Runtime Applications - Licensing Issues...
    I believe that is the exact same language as V8.
    And version 7 for that matter - Unlimited RTs were never available in V8... I believe it usually takes a rather long while to fully update the whole help file...

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  • Peter.Greulich
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Originally posted by Alan Lee View Post
    ...
    I believe that is the exact same language as V8.
    Alan,

    I believe you are mistaken. As far as I can tell they are not selling an "unlimited" RT in v9.

    From this link: (removed broken link)

    Run-Engines are licensed per installation, which means that each work station that the Run-Engine is installed on will require a license.
    Last edited by Lenny Forziati; 06-02-2023, 02:49 PM. Reason: removed broken link

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  • Alan Lee
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    I just downloaded the V9 help file. From the section titled

    Alpha Five Runtime


    Distributing Runtime Applications - Licensing Issues

    The number of users who can use your application concurrently on any network is based on the type of Runtime that you purchased. The people to whom you distribute the Alpha Five Runtime may not, in turn, distribute any copies of the Alpha Five Runtime. For example, if you purchased an "Unlimited 10-User Runtime", then a maximum of 10 users can use your application concurrently on any particular network. If you purchased an Unlimited User Runtime, then there are no limitations on the number of concurrent users of your application.

    I believe that is the exact same language as V8.

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  • Brett Johnston
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Hi Tony,
    The pricing mentioned for the OEM license is the upgrade price, which means that if you have previously purchased any Alpha Five or Alpha Four product, then you are entitled to upgrade pricing.

    Thanks

    Brett

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  • NoeticCC
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Originally posted by reynolditpi View Post
    Please...by no means do i want this to sound offensive...but are we kicking the proverbial dead horse here???
    Better than kicking live horses - a) They don't kick back and b) The RSPCA tend to object to kicking live ones too ;)

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  • reynolditpi
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    Richard,
    Is the price for everybody? For an upgrade? New Customer?
    Tony

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  • Richard Rabins
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    Re: New Run Engine Question

    OEM Run Engine Package Details (designed for developers building commercial, packaged software)

    Price: one time flat fee: $599 - this OEM version will be available soon.

    The OEM Run Engine License package is intended for developers who plan to create and sell packaged software using Alpha Five V9 Platinum. This package provides a more affordable alternative to purchasing per-seat runtime licenses. You can distribute an unlimited number of copies of your software for one flat licensing fee.

    � Market and sell an unlimited number of copies of your packaged application.
    � Easily replace the Alpha Five V9 banner with your own splash screen.
    � Includes functionality of Alpha Five Version 8�s Runtime Plus License (allows your users to create their own letters/labels/reports).
    � Designed for single-user, DBF file applications that don�t require SQL connectivity
    � Distribute multiple different commercial packaged applications from the same license
    __________________
    Richard Rabins
    Co Chairman
    Alpha Software

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  • reynolditpi
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    Please...by no means do i want this to sound offensive...but are we kicking the proverbial dead horse here???

    I think the same points/questions are being reiterated over and over.

    Richard did promise more details in the very near future.

    He has also stated that they will be more than fair with their pricing.

    I will admit that i have been waiting for a little more than 24 hours to hear back from sales...which is frustrating, but we may not want to lite the torches until they can further clarify things.

    Just my 2 cents:)
    Tony

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