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    ISBLANK() trouble

    Hi All,

    It seems ISBLANK() is working backwords from how I think it should be, I have put a validation rule in field rules that says ISBLANK(customer_name) then in the message "Customer Name" is required. What is happ is it shows the message if the customer_name field is NOT blank. If I make it .NOT.ISBLANK(customer_name) then it pops up the message when thiers no value. Y is this happing?
    Kind Regards,
    Ray Roosa
    Raylin Micro, LLC.
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    Re: ISBLANK() trouble

    should be:
    ISBLANK("customer_name")

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      #3
      Re: ISBLANK() trouble

      Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
      should be:
      ISBLANK("customer_name")
      Thank you for the reply however I did not exsplain in my exsample that I do have the quots around the customer name but the function seems to be working backwards, ISBLANK("customer_name") then fire my message but what is happing is it only fires my message when its not blank innless I use .NOT.ISBLANK("customer_name") then it fires my message when the field is blank, y is this happing? is it not working backwards?
      Kind Regards,
      Ray Roosa
      Raylin Micro, LLC.

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        #4
        Re: ISBLANK() trouble

        Originally posted by Rayr View Post
        Thank you for the reply however I did not exsplain in my exsample that I do have the quots around the customer name but the function seems to be working backwards, ISBLANK("customer_name") then fire my message but what is happing is it only fires my message when its not blank innless I use .NOT.ISBLANK("customer_name") then it fires my message when the field is blank, y is this happing? is it not working backwards?
        For one thing you should be using ISNOTBLANK() rather than .NOT.ISBLANK(). Possibly for another, both functions return either a .T. or a .F., so maybe you need ISBLANK("customer_name")=.t. (or = .f. depending on what you are doing). See if that works as desired.

        Ray

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          #5
          Re: ISBLANK() trouble

          Ray

          When using custom validation rules when the customer name is blank then the validation rule "isblank("customer_name") is true then the validation will allow the blank and the message will not be displayed. By the same token if the customer name has an entry then the validation rule "isnotblank("customer_name") is true and the record will save and the message will not be displayed.

          Here is a partial quote from the help file

          If all validation expressions evaluate to TRUE for the record, the entered value is allowed in the field. Otherwise, the entry is rejected, and a validation error message for the first expression to fail appears.
          I guess you could say that it is backward but when you think about it, what the validation rule is saying is I will allow it if the condition is true.

          I hope that explains it a little.

          Tom

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            #6
            Re: ISBLANK() trouble

            First Ray:
            I have put a validation rule in field rules that says ISBLANK(customer_name)
            I think you got your wires mixed up. That should go in data entery not validation. Validation checks to see that the value entered is within acceptable parameters. You need to make data entery "required".

            Other Ray:
            Isblank("field")
            and
            Isblank("field")=.t.
            are the same.
            The default for logical functions is "true".

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              #7
              Re: ISBLANK() trouble

              This has the look of a bug, but IT IS NOT.

              I am going to make a guess here:
              The field to which you made this field rule is the first field that receives focus. Right?

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                #8
                Re: ISBLANK() trouble

                Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
                This has the look of a bug, but IT IS NOT.

                I am going to make a guess here:
                The field to which you made this field rule is the first field that receives focus. Right?
                Yes it is the first field to get focus, does this mean something?
                Kind Regards,
                Ray Roosa
                Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                  #9
                  Re: ISBLANK() trouble

                  Originally posted by G Gabriel View Post
                  First Ray:

                  I think you got your wires mixed up. That should go in data entery not validation. Validation checks to see that the value entered is within acceptable parameters. You need to make data entery "required".

                  Other Ray:
                  Isblank("field")
                  and
                  Isblank("field")=.t.
                  are the same.
                  The default for logical functions is "true".
                  I had tryed using the data entry "required" before using validation rules the only trouble using data entry "required" is when the message pops up it uses the default field name CUSTOMER_NAME instead of the descriptive name, Company Name witch is much better looking. I dont know if Alpha Software can change this to use the descriptive name if it exist, then we would not have to reinvent the wheel since its already their.
                  Kind Regards,
                  Ray Roosa
                  Raylin Micro, LLC.

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                    Re: ISBLANK() trouble

                    Originally posted by Raymond Lyons View Post
                    For one thing you should be using ISNOTBLANK() rather than .NOT.ISBLANK(). Possibly for another, both functions return either a .T. or a .F., so maybe you need ISBLANK("customer_name")=.t. (or = .f. depending on what you are doing). See if that works as desired.

                    Ray
                    Hi Ray,

                    ISNOTBLANK("Customer_name") worked perfectly. I would like to thank everyone for all their help with this. I have used alpha on and off since their DOS days but have not focused on it so I guess you can consider me new now, i wish I had stuck with it all these years but now I am ready to commit to Alpha Five, one of the best things about Alpha is this community of people helping each other. I look forward to being able to help out someone some day on here also. :)

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                    Kind Regards,
                    Ray Roosa
                    Raylin Micro, LLC.

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