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Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

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  • Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

    There seems to be a 40 character limit on a Windows title. Is this hard coded somewhere or am I overlooking a setting? Or is this a bug?

    I have defined the following with XBasic:

    Code:
    frmAddress.window_title = "Maintain addresses for " 
    + TRIM(frmPerson.First_name) + SPACE(1) 
    + TRIM(frmPerson.Last_name)
    First name is Robert W.
    Last name is ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ

    When the form is displayed the Windows title is
    Code:
    Maintain addresses for Robert W. ABCDEFG
    I've looked in Object Explorer and also the Control panel Settings (under preferences) and can't find anything. I am surprised it is not 256 characters, but maybe A5V9 is overriding it.

    Thanks,
    Bob McGaffic
    Pittsburgh

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    Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

    Originally posted by rmcgaffic View Post
    There seems to be a 40 character limit on a Windows title. Is this hard coded somewhere or am I overlooking a setting? Or is this a bug?
    This has been discussed before w/o resolution. Some suggest it is a Window's limitation, but I'm not sure I'd buy that.
    Peter
    AlphaBase Solutions, LLC

    Peter@AlphaBaseSolutions.com
    https://www.alphabasesolutions.com


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    • #3
      Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

      Peter,

      Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

      I did do a forum search before posting this problem for the term "windows title" and came up with 9 hits, but none of them dealt the length of the title specifically.

      I also did a Google search for Visual Basic and Windows title and came up with no direct hits.

      Bob McGaffic
      Pittsburgh

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      • #4
        Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

        Peter,

        It looks like this issue is a serious shortcoming, if not a bug per se.

        Windows is not the problem, A5V9 is.

        In my mind it is very important when using a modal popup window to be able to fully describe what the window is about. In my earlier example, if I click on a button on my contact form for more details about the phone numbers assigned to a contact, I expect to be able to identify what records are displayed in the popup with a windows title, something like "Bob McGaffic's phone numbers yada yada yada". (43 characters long)

        Unfortunately, I removed Visual Studio 2005 from my machine when I installed A5V8, but the screens below show that FileMaker Pro 9 Advanced has no problem whatsoever displaying windows titles of a longer length.

        If Alpha is retain its bragging rights as superior to FileMaker Pro, this kind of deficiency needs to be addressed.

        Screen 1
        Shows A5 form in design mode. Note that a very long title has been specified in Object explorer and is evident
        in the blue windows title.

        Screen 2
        Shows A5 form in view mode. Note that title has been truncated to 40 characters.

        Screen 3
        Shows FileMaker Pro Advanced form in design mode. Note that a very long title is specified as the code behind the gray push button's event.

        Screen 4
        Shows FileMaker Pro Advanced form in view mode. Note that the long title is correctly displayed.

        Bob McGaffic
        Pittsburgh
        Last edited by rmcgaffic; 09-01-2008, 07:34 PM.

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        • #5
          Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

          Would tend to agree with Peter on this as so far I only have seen truncation at 95 characters and many times it takes more than that in Windows. Even the browser windows do not truncate at 100 characters in Firefox or IE in Windows.
          Mike
          __________________________________________
          It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
          It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
          Henry David Thoreau
          __________________________________________



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          • #6
            Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

            Mike,

            You must have posted a second or two before I did. See my FileMaker Pro example above.

            Thanks,
            Bob McGaffic
            Pittsburgh

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            • #7
              Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

              Hi Bob,
              Only a matter of time so figure to mention it here to you....
              Your comment of "If Alpha is retain its bragging rights as superior to FileMaker Pro, this kind of deficiency needs to be addressed." made me wonder why you have omitted the lack of the drag/drop feature...

              Alpha has NO drag/drop feature with no work-a-round that has been shared (I have an idea for an emulation but no time to pursue it yet). I have wondered about this for quite some time as to why nothing has been done regarding this as am fairly sure most other db platforms have a way to drag/drop.
              Mike
              __________________________________________
              It is only when we forget all our learning that we begin to know.
              It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see.
              Henry David Thoreau
              __________________________________________



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              • #8
                Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

                Mike,

                You're ahead of me, but I'm getting there.

                The jury is still out on drag/drop. Please see forum member Alan Sawyer's posting "ActiveX" a couple of days ago.

                If you have time to open my zipped word document, you will see that Alpha Five is having problems with exposing all the member properties of a control.
                I have asked vendor Codejock to take a look at it, before I report an Alpha error.

                Why is this imporant? Because this calendar control gives you drag and drop capabilities -- picking up an event or appointment and moving it around on your calendar, or at least the Microsoft Access 2003 demo that I have executed does.

                Calendar and scheduling applications lend themselves very naturally to drag and drop. I am very interested in seeing if the control itself will permit this, even though A5V9 does not directly provide such functionality.

                I'll keep you all posted on my progress.

                Bob McGaffic
                Pittsburgh

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                • #9
                  Problem is fixed with patch as of 09/06/2008

                  All,

                  I want to report great news. Even before I formally filed a wish list/bug report on this issue, the Alpha team has fixed it.

                  As my screen example shows below the windows popup title is no longer restricted to 40 characters.

                  This is excellent responsiveness! Thank you Alpha Team!

                  Bob McGaffic
                  Pittsburgh

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                  • #10
                    Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

                    can't find the patch - where did you get it?
                    Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                    972 524 8714
                    martin_w_cole@msn.com

                    ____________________
                    "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                    • #11
                      Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

                      Martin,

                      I downloaded the latest updates as of yesterday evening 09/06/08.

                      Bob McGaffic
                      Pittsburgh

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                      • #12
                        Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

                        strange I checked again just now, and there was no update available newer than july - did Selwyn send you a url or did you update normally?
                        if he gave you a url, then the update hasn't been posted yet
                        Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                        972 524 8714
                        martin_w_cole@msn.com

                        ____________________
                        "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                        • #13
                          Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

                          Martin,

                          I just updated normally.

                          Bob McGaffic
                          Pittsburgh

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                          • #14
                            Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

                            Here is what I get when I go to 'download updates'
                            Cole Custom Programming - Terrell, Texas
                            972 524 8714
                            martin_w_cole@msn.com

                            ____________________
                            "A young man who is not liberal has no heart, but an old man who is not conservative has no mind." GB Shaw

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                            • #15
                              Re: Is Windows title length hardwired to 40 characters?

                              Sorry, I was mistaken....
                              "Ollie, remember how dumb I used to be? Well, I'm much better now."

                              Pete

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